PTK Posted August 4, 2016 Report Posted August 4, 2016 29 minutes ago, bradp said: There is a confusion / inconsistency in the marketing of the G5. The STC has a download code/key that prints the STC letter to make the instal legal. In the BT forum a garmin rep (Trek I think) said that a garmrin dealer needs to use their login to download the code. However, this is an A&P installable unit. Chief and spruce are selling them. So makes me wonder how your local A&P who's not a garmin dealer is supposed to print the STC? It may be the difference between the experimental version which can be bought at Chief or Spruce and installed by anyone. The STC'd version does need to be installed by a G authorized dealer. http://newsroom.garmin.com/press-release/featured-releases/garmin-introduces-g5-electronic-flight-instrument-certificated-aircr Quote
mike_elliott Posted August 4, 2016 Report Posted August 4, 2016 9 hours ago, jetdriven said: You can move the gyro that drives the autopilot to the lower left spot and use the G5 of D10 in the center but then you have to keep throwing 2.5 AMU's at repairing, how did PTK put it, "that fine switch watch" KI256 every 500 hours or so. 1 Quote
LANCECASPER Posted August 4, 2016 Report Posted August 4, 2016 35 minutes ago, PTK said: It may be the difference between the experimental version which can be bought at Chief or Spruce and installed by anyone. The STC'd version does need to be installed by a G authorized dealer. http://newsroom.garmin.com/press-release/featured-releases/garmin-introduces-g5-electronic-flight-instrument-certificated-aircr The G5 does not need to be installed by a Garmin authorized dealer. Here's what Trek from Garmin said on Beechtalk: Hello Brad, I did confirm yesterday that the G5 certified does not fall under our install guidelines and can be ordered online and the unit installed by your local A&P. however they will need to register the unit on the Fly.Garmin website in order to get the STC documentation for that install. _________________ Trek A. Lawler Supervisor, Garmin Aviation Field Service Engineering Aviation Product Support - - - - - - https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/garmin-g5-cert.php http://www.chiefaircraft.com/gmn-k10-00280-00.html Quote
bradp Posted August 4, 2016 Report Posted August 4, 2016 41 minutes ago, PTK said: It may be the difference between the experimental version which can be bought at Chief or Spruce and installed by anyone. The STC'd version does need to be installed by a G authorized dealer. http://newsroom.garmin.com/press-release/featured-releases/garmin-introduces-g5-electronic-flight-instrument-certificated-aircr Perfect!! Quote
1964-M20E Posted August 4, 2016 Report Posted August 4, 2016 On 7/31/2016 at 0:19 AM, bradp said: In that case I'd consider installing the experimental version instead of the STCd if it can be done as a minor mod.... Even if it couldn't be installed front and center like the STCd G5, at least you would get HSI and preselect functions. What about the STC version for the AI up top front and center and then using a second one for an HSI and DG with heading bug to AP? In my case I have the STEC 30 so I do not need the AI for the AP. Quote
jetdriven Posted August 4, 2016 Report Posted August 4, 2016 It must have a non G5 backup and it cannot replace any required instrument so I don't see how you could do that reasonably. Quote
RobertGary1 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Posted August 4, 2016 We might be confusing different things. The STC'd G5 is a replacement for your attitude indicator. In the Certified Aircraft installation video they show the only attitude indicator removed and replaced with the G5. The marketing docs say its STC'd as a "replacement" of you attitude indicator for certified aircraft. -Robert 1 Quote
NotarPilot Posted August 7, 2016 Report Posted August 7, 2016 Does anyone know for sure if the STC'd G5s are hitting the street next month or are they already shipping now? Quote
bradp Posted August 7, 2016 Report Posted August 7, 2016 The G5 cannot be used wth instrument panels that have shock mounts. I know my 77J does have them, which would make the installation ineligible for the STC, although all M20s are listed in the AML. I am not aware of a pathway that would allow for removal of the shock mounts, as persistently droopy as they are. -Brad. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted August 7, 2016 Report Posted August 7, 2016 I wonder when Garmin will have a attitude display using the FlightStream 210 AHRS. There would be no shock mount restriction, it would be cheaper since it's only a display. Add HSI function, SV and you have a complete solution in a nice little package. Quote
DonMuncy Posted August 7, 2016 Report Posted August 7, 2016 20 minutes ago, bradp said: The G5 cannot be used wth instrument panels that have shock mounts. -Brad. I don't understand that restriction. Am I missing something easy. Quote
NotarPilot Posted August 8, 2016 Report Posted August 8, 2016 8 hours ago, DonMuncy said: I don't understand that restriction. Am I missing something easy. I don't understand it either. Can someone please explain? Quote
BobAustin Posted August 10, 2016 Report Posted August 10, 2016 OK...can I replace my attitude indicator in 85 M20J with KFC-150 (no flight director) with the certified G5 ? Quote
gsengle Posted August 10, 2016 Report Posted August 10, 2016 No it won't drive the 150 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
gsxrpilot Posted August 10, 2016 Report Posted August 10, 2016 I would definitely like to add an electric standby AI to my panel. I'm thinking this isn't only the best option, but probably the cheapest option as well. Quote
jetdriven Posted August 10, 2016 Report Posted August 10, 2016 24 minutes ago, BobAustin said: OK...can I replace my attitude indicator in 85 M20J with KFC-150 (no flight director) with the certified G5 ? Yes, that's what it's designed for. But I'd do with it what I did when I installed the Castelberry AI a few years ago. Put it front and center the put the vacuum AI in the lower left hole. Quote
bradp Posted August 10, 2016 Report Posted August 10, 2016 31 minutes ago, jetdriven said: Yes, that's what it's designed for. But I'd do with it what I did when I installed the Castelberry AI a few years ago. Put it front and center the put the vacuum AI in the lower left hole. As Byron states Turn and Bank or TC can be gotten rid of if you have an attitude indicator that drives your autopilot. Quote
RobertGary1 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 I'm going to keep my TC because it drives my factory autopilot. But I'll move the existing attitude indicator off to the right of the VOR heads and put the G5 front and center. Most of my flying is in G1000 aircraft so I'm becoming more used to airspeed/altitude tapes anyway. Plus as I get more 'mature' I"m less excited about a vacuum based attitude indicator backed up by a TC that flops back and forth (although I've done it in actual a few times when the attitude indicator did die). -Robert Quote
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