Not the way to start a white christmas ski trip!

[peevee]

48 minutes ago, cnoe said:

I absolutely agree; if you cancel IFR and go VFR then ATC has no responsibility to notify you of runway closures. This appears to be the case in Colorado.

But if you're on an IFR flight plan, checked notams at your last stop, and are in IMC on a vectored approach then ATC should do their very best not to give you an approach clearance to a closed runway. But even then the ultimate responsibility for the safe completion of a flight is on the shoulders of the

Doesn't appear to be the case. It is the case. 

 

And you think checking the notams before a flight, flying 3 or 4 hours and not checking again is safe operation? OK... 

[cnoe]

48 minutes ago, cnoe said: I absolutely agree; if you cancel IFR and go VFR then ATC has no responsibility to notify you of runway closures. This appears to be the case in Colorado.

But if you're on an IFR flight plan, checked notams at your last stop, and are in IMC on a vectored approach then ATC should do their very best not to give you an approach clearance to a closed runway. But even then the ultimate responsibility for the safe completion of a flight is on the shoulders of the

Doesn't appear to be the case. It is the case. 

 

And you think checking the notams before a flight, flying 3 or 4 hours and not checking again is safe operation? OK... 

Okay then, I stand corrected. "Is the case".

But please make no assumptions about my due diligence checking notams. In the case I'm referring to my flight leg was 1.6 hours due to diversions (planned for 45 minutes), not "3 or 4 hours". I'm certainly no expert on all things flying and am only stating my opinion, but I believe that there was nothing imprudent about my flight planning or execution. It sucked for me that Center cleared me to land on a closed runway but I did what I was taught and called "missed" when the lights weren't visible at MDA, then executed plan B.

Have a Merry Christmas!

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[peevee]

8 hours ago, cnoe said:

Okay then, I stand corrected. "Is the case".

But please make no assumptions about my due diligence checking notams. In the case I'm referring to my flight leg was 1.6 hours due to diversions (planned for 45 minutes), not "3 or 4 hours". I'm certainly no expert on all things flying and am only stating my opinion, but I believe that there was nothing imprudent about my flight planning or execution. It sucked for me that Center cleared me to land on a closed runway but I did what I was taught and called "missed" when the lights weren't visible at MDA, then executed plan B.

Have a Merry Christmas!

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Again, you're making the assumption that they even knew about it. Your leg was 1.6 hours, you probably checked the notams when you left the house. A lot of things happen in 2-3 hours....

[N201MKTurbo]

It never hurts to give flight service a call, they are the keepers of notams not ATC. 

[N33GG]

It will all be on the pilot and co-pilot.  Time to look for a new career.

[Marauder]

As someone who flew for years in the snow belt, runway and even airport closures were fairly frequent during storms. At controlled airports, it was usually easy to pick this information up because of ATIS reports. Unfortunately, uncontrolled airports were hit or miss depending on the diligence of the people managing the airport. Some would leave a generic NOTAM that "snow removal operations" may be occurring. Other times, when the snow accumulated too fast, they would issue a airport closure NOTAM. Some of those did make it to ATC but if I was flying to an uncontrolled airport, I would be queuing up a Flight Service station for an update.

The question about ADS-B NOTAM update is a good one. There was a recent FAA update on the subject and I haven't had a chance to see if local NOTAMs are included in the FIS-B updates and if they are, what the frequency of the updates are;

http://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/media/advisory_circular/ac_20-149b.pdf

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