Emergency Checklist - Engine Fire In Flight

[amillet]

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Group purchase?

[M016576]

On November 8, 2015 at 7:08:30 AM, aviatoreb said:

The tiny hammer seriously works.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017HAI52A?keywords=escape%20hammer&psc=1&qid=1446995094&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1-spons

I tried it once a few years ago when my hangar neighbor was replacing windows - he let me break his windows with my hammer - and he even thanked me for it.  It was a Mooney M20C no less.  The little hammer did MUCH better than I would have hoped.  A tiny tap and the wind essentially disappeared.

Planning on using you legs assumes that you will be in a good position with free leg movement, healthy legs, etc.  Get a hammer too - its $11.99 for two.  A price even a CB can love.

Oh - and my emergency equipment like this - I have it tied with a string to my side pouch - because I am imaging what might happen in a sudden stop in a crash - everything goes flying forward and now you are looking for your missing hammer.

Fortune favors the prepared...

[Yetti]

OK just imagining this playing out.  You have a fire and the first thing you are going to do is reach for your Ipad and wait for the check lists to load?

My checklist would be this mnemonic

SSD

Shut S**T Down.  Starting with fuel, then the master

We will sort the rest out from there....

[kpaul]

45 minutes ago, Yetti said:

SSD

Shut S**T Down.  Starting with fuel, then the master

We will sort the rest out from there....

+1...In the military it is either BOLD FACE or CAPs (critical action procedures) and they have to be memorized.  Engine fire and smoke/fumes in the cockpit have been a standard CAP in every airplane I have flown.  The remainder of the checklist comes after these actions are complete when and if you have time to accomplish them.  Sort of that it's descend and gear/flaps as required.

[Yetti]

I want to know what the V speed is for blowing out a fire.  Kind of like what they did in Memphis Bell

[Hank]

2 minutes ago, Yetti said:

I want to know what the V speed is for blowing out a fire.  Kind of like what they did in Memphis Bell

I'd try 200 mph myself, shutting off fuel while pushing. That would probably be  <1000 fpm. When it's out, roll into 45° bank and lose altitude fast. Stop on the ground wherever possible. 

[Marauder]

I want to know what the V speed is for blowing out a fire.  Kind of like what they did in Memphis Bell

For me, VNE and then some. I would rather take my chances of a wing surface failing over burning alive.

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[cliffy]

One of the (if not the ) most feared problems of WWI fighter pilots was burning up in the airplane. They didn't have parachutes then. Of course they were getting shot at and bullets went into the gas tanks. Our problem will most likely be electrical fires and even though the electrical power is shut down the insulation will continue to burn. An electrical fire almost brought down a test flight of the 787 years ago. 

A fire in an enclosed area doubles in size every minute. 1 min double, 2 mins 4Xs, 3 mins 8Xs, 4 mins 16Xs. How fast can you get on the ground? Do you have a fire extinguisher handy?

(The picture Yetti posted of the crash axe was what we had in every Boeing cockpit YET I couldn't carry a 2" pocket knife through TSA. What a joke. )