ryoder Posted May 30, 2015 Report Posted May 30, 2015 The 1965 M20C is the greatest airplane ever produced by human hands. 1 Quote
Guest Posted May 30, 2015 Report Posted May 30, 2015 Thank you gentlemen. I suspected as much. Now I know what I'm looking for. An M20E - 1966-1967. I may have to wait for the right one to pop up. Finding one in Canada is unlikely. I suppose I should get myself up to speed on the importation rules. In Canada we have rules for rules. It seems the Canadian government is against general aviation. It appears so anyway. Makes you wonder if anyone in their ivory towers ever thinks about where the airline pilots come from? They just assume pilots just happen. Importing a plane to Canada is a straight forward process. We import and export planes regularly, I'd be happy to help you once you find a suitable candidate. Clarence Quote
Andy95W Posted May 30, 2015 Report Posted May 30, 2015 The 1965 M20C is the greatest airplane ever produced by human hands. But the square windows are, well, square. 1964 and earlier: the Original rounded windows! But of course I agree about the M20C. Best value, best for just screwing around the local area, best for take off and landing practice, and you can still actually go places in it. 2 Quote
Hank Posted May 30, 2015 Report Posted May 30, 2015 The square back windows let folks back there see much better. Sometimes I even look out them from the front seat. 1 Quote
rbridges Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 I've said it before. I plan on keeping my c a long time, but I think the J model is the best looking and best overall combination of value and speed. 1 Quote
BigTex Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 The 1965 M20C is the greatest airplane ever produced by human hands. I agree with this statement at so many levels... and it's not because I own one. But again, it's all personal preference. If you love manual gear, simple carbonated Lycoming engine and hydraulic flaps, simple to fly then this plane if for you. But if you want a fuel injected engine, flying LOP, have electric gear and want to squeeze the most speed from your plane, you might want to look at other models. 3 Quote
bonal Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 Every time I open up my Lycoming I love the fizz from all the carbonation those bubbles tickle my nose and make me burp. Sorry I couldn't resist. 1 Quote
mpg Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 Thank you gentlemen. I suspected as much. Now I know what I'm looking for. An M20E - 1966-1967. I may have to wait for the right one to pop up. Finding one in Canada is unlikely. I suppose I should get myself up to speed on the importation rules. In Canada we have rules for rules. It seems the Canadian government is against general aviation. It appears so anyway. Makes you wonder if anyone in their ivory towers ever thinks about where the airline pilots come from? They just assume pilots just happen. Well,,, just for fun,,, in Canada.. 1966 MOONEY M20E • $12,000 • PRICED FOR FAST SALE • 1966 Mooney M20E Super 21. Aircraft has approx 1600TT, engine has approx 600SMOH and 0 SPOH. Aircraft has been parked and has not run or flown for 30 years. I have had it for 5 years but I have no time to work on this project. If you buy the aircraft, it is possible that you can work in my hangar to get it ready to transport it by ground. Aircraft is complete. • Contact Guy Breault, Owner - located Westlock, AB Canada • Telephone: 414 248 4224 • Posted May 26, 2015 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad• View Larger Pictures Quote
Guest Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 A nice blank sheet to start with. Clarence Quote
drapo Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 Let's see now, $25k in engine and prop work, $20k instruments and avionics, $15k paint job and $5k interior work, if everything else is good, you could have a nice condition E for $77k cdn Quote
Andy95W Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 The square back windows let folks back there see much better. Sometimes I even look out them from the front seat. I don't disagree, my first airplane had them (1967 M20C), although I only had people in the back seat twice in 14 years. But as Stephen Stills said, "Love the One You're With". 1 Quote
HRM Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 The 1965 M20C is the greatest airplane ever produced by human hands. ....but not Super. Or 21 for that matter. Quote
HRM Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 1966 MOONEY M20E • $12,000 • PRICED FOR FAST SALE • 1966 Mooney M20E Super 21. Aircraft has approx 1600TT, engine has approx 600SMOH and 0 SPOH. Aircraft has been parked and has not run or flown for 30 years. I have had it for 5 years but I have no time to work on this project. If you buy the aircraft, it is possible that you can work in my hangar to get it ready to transport it by ground. Aircraft is complete. • Contact Guy Breault, Owner - located Westlock, AB Canada • Telephone: 414 248 4224 • Posted May 26, 2015 One of the abused Mooney's mentioned earlier! Quote
Guest Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 As long as the airframe is in good condition and the purchaser is motivated and willing to do as much labour as possible it could be saved from the boneyard. If the plane is disassembled for transport, stripping the paint wouldn't be too bad then you're only paying for the painting as an example, interior could be replaced with an Airtex for not a huge amount. The market is awash with used avionics, it just needs a motivated owner and a willing maintainer. Clarence Quote
yvesg Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 Too bad you are not living near here. I am looking for a partner for my 1965 M20C. I agree with ryoder. My plane went across north America from cold wet snowy to dry hot without ever let me down. Good luck finding your bird. Yves Quote
Andy95W Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 ....but not Super. Or 21 for that matter. Actually, C's of that vintage are 21. Mark 21. More horsepower, more money, more fuel burn, more maintenance. Sometimes more isn't better, it's just more. (I do love the Super variant of the Mark 21, but I'm a Cheap B@$tard and a Mooney owner for a reason.) Quote
ryoder Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 I was kind of kidding about the C being the greatest airplane ever but not really. All airplanes are compromises but this C has the right balance for what I do with it. Quote
HRM Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 Actually, C's of that vintage are 21. Mark 21. I meant age. Quote
rbridges Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 I meant age. Haha. My plane turns 50 this year. 21 is wayyyy in the rear view mirror. Quote
Hank Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 Harley, your Super has hit 21 twice, and is well on its way to a third time. My baby is only pushing 45! The funny thing is, my little truck and my short body Mooney both say "Ranger" on them . . . And they get about the same gas mileage. Quote
drapo Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 Harley, your Super has hit 21 twice, and is well on its way to a third time. My baby is only pushing 45! The funny thing is, my little truck and my short body Mooney both say "Ranger" on them . . . And they get about the same gas mileage. That's not normal! You should get the carburator adjusted on your Mooney ! Quote
Badmoonraising Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Posted June 4, 2015 How involved is taking the wings off that M20E? I know where Westlock is. This could be a good project. If its corrosion feel (more or less) than it bets actually building an airplane! Quote
Guest Posted June 4, 2015 Report Posted June 4, 2015 I've never done a wing removal, but I've seen pictures of planes that had the fuselage split at the joint behind the baggage door. It stays on its wheels and is loaded onto at trailer lengthwise. You would have to pull the tail group in one piece then pull the aft fuselage for transport. I transported a Lake 200 a short distaste by placing it on a flat deck trailer without disassembly, it works. Clarence Quote
rob47v Posted June 4, 2015 Report Posted June 4, 2015 Very easy. disconnect fuel, pitot lines. Disconnect flap actuator and all brake lines underneath belly area, all push pull tubes and don't forget the ailerons. Tuck them out of the way once disconnected. See if the plane has bayonet splices, and disconnect there. If not find all wire marking, or Id the wire your going to cut. clear area, support wing and lift airframe from wing once bolts are removed. Oh the corner bolts that go in thru the wing underneath the back seat are safetied. Don't do like the hacker that I got my plane from and cut everything, such butcher!!!! Or if your trailer is long enough. drill off the tail meaning the lap section behind the rear seat and transported side ways. Quote
Guitarmaster Posted June 7, 2015 Report Posted June 7, 2015 How does one "ground out" a pneumatic system? AFAIK, the only electric component of the wing leveler is is the T&B, which is what the system references to keep the wings level. It activates the cutout solenoid in the PC. The older ones don't have it, but the newer ones do. I will be installing said switch in a couple weeks. If you need the schematics, I can post them but Brittain will send them to you free of charge. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
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