Hedge Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Posted January 19, 2015 You asked for flight following, correct? If so, shortly after the request, you should have had conformation of "radar contact" and at some point you probably said your altitude. If you had "radar contact" conformation, there is a record of that, and you probably experienced an in flight failure. I didn't get radar contact and that was the problem. She was very busy and I decided to cancel the flight following. I had flight following from Shaw a minute before that, so I didn't think there was any problem. I dropped elevation and landed. So I had no idea there was a problem, so I didn't get on flight aware. Not sure about any other plane as I didn't see anything close. It was in flight failure.
Hedge Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Posted January 19, 2015 OK, Nothing new from the FAA, I haven't heard anything since I had to file the report. But an update on my plane. I sent the transponder out to be repaired and got it back. It still didn't work. I flew to a local avionics shop and they tested the transponder. He said it had some internal errors, but not enough that it wouldn't send out anything to ATC. So he opened the panel on the belly of the plane and low and behold, the transponder wasn't hook up to the antenna. He hooked it back up and we are now in business.
Hedge Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Posted January 19, 2015 Pretty likely they had your Mode C if you were planning on entering the Bravo. The altitude change request is usually to alert them of a VFR descent that you did not need to notify them of otherwise. I didn't enter Bravo, but thought I had a mode C
Raptor05121 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 OK, Nothing new from the FAA, I haven't heard anything since I had to file the report. But an update on my plane. I sent the transponder out to be repaired and got it back. It still didn't work. I flew to a local avionics shop and they tested the transponder. He said it had some internal errors, but not enough that it wouldn't send out anything to ATC. So he opened the panel on the belly of the plane and low and behold, the transponder wasn't hook up to the antenna. He hooked it back up and we are now in business. It's always the little things, isnt it? 1
Hedge Posted January 23, 2015 Author Report Posted January 23, 2015 Final update. FAA - no further action. So everything has worked itself out Although I am signing up for the AOPA lawyer insurance.
Marauder Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 Final update. FAA - no further action. So everything has worked itself out Although I am signing up for the AOPA lawyer insurance. It was a sickening feeling waiting for this all to play out, wasn't it? Glad it turned out okay.
Hedge Posted January 23, 2015 Author Report Posted January 23, 2015 It was a sickening feeling waiting for this all to play out, wasn't it? Glad it turned out ok. Me too for sure. It was no fun. Not a violation on my record, but I am sure that I am still in her system. Also in talking with the woman from the FAA, she told me that I should NOT have filled out the NASA form. She said that you only get a couple of times to use that ever, and to use those only if a for sure violation is done or there is a near miss for some reason. She also said that they also don't work if they deem the violation to be done on purpose.
DonMuncy Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 I think she is wrong. It is my understanding that you can file as many as you like. If you ever need to "use one" (ie. avoid a penalty for a violation), then you can't use one again for 5 years(?).
Rik Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 Question from the inexperienced. What can happen to you for this infraction, let's play worst case scenario and say you were in Class B and didn't know it. When someone says speak to an attorney I get afraid of wanting to learn to fly.
mike_elliott Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 Also in talking with the woman from the FAA, she told me that I should NOT have filled out the NASA form. She said that you only get a couple of times to use that ever, and to use those only if a for sure violation is done or there is a near miss for some reason. She also said that they also don't work if they deem the violation to be done on purpose. Huh? I think this is in error. Fill out a NASA form every time you *think* you are involved with a potential "situation" 1
Hedge Posted January 23, 2015 Author Report Posted January 23, 2015 Huh? I think this is in error. Fill out a NASA form every time you *think* you are involved with a potential "situation" If you are involved in a near miss, I think you should use a NASA form, but in a case where there wasn't anything like that and there wasn't a violation, then you shouldn't fill one out. If you mistakenly wander into Class B without permission, you should fill one out because you were in violation. But what she was saying is that you can only use a couple to avoid prosecution of your license.
Hedge Posted January 23, 2015 Author Report Posted January 23, 2015 Question from the inexperienced. What can happen to you for this infraction, let's play worst case scenario and say you were in Class B and didn't know it. When someone says speak to an attorney I get afraid of wanting to learn to fly. It isn't about going to jail, it is about staining your record or potential getting a suspended license. Once you have enough experience, you would know when you are in Class B. Especially with the GPS, it makes it much easier.
carusoam Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 Rik, Know the rules and abide by them... its not too difficult under most circumstances... Then join AOPA... its a good idea. For a few bucks more, pick up their legal program. If you are an ordinary pilot and your living doesn't depend on it, its not so critical.. If your living depends on it, not being able to fly is more of a concern. Best regards, -a-
Rik Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 Joined AOPA already. No ever explains things and assumes that everyone understands it all and I certainly don't so I ask. No plans on being a commercial pilot so that might not concern me as much as someone who's living depends upon it.
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