Can we put a limit of new posts per 24 hours in this forum?

[AndreiC]

Who are the admins of this forum? There should be a way to stop or limit the kind of crap that’s been going on for the last couple  of weeks. I am not an expert, but I’d like to help to put an end to this, or else this wonderful forum will become completely unusable. 

One idea: people who are not supporters can not create more than one new post per 24 hours. I am sure the software that runs this site must support such an option with minimal effort. 

[toto]

@mooniac58 is the admin 

There’s a thread over here 

 

[mooniac58]

If we do that they will just make more accounts.  For the time being I have shut down all new account registrations while I clean up the mess I woke up to.  After that I will try to think of a new way going forward to prevent this.  Please understand that I am using every counter-measure available within this forum software to try and stop this and they are still getting through.  Isn't AI a wonderful invention?  

[natdm]

2 minutes ago, mooniac58 said:

If we do that they will just make more accounts.  For the time being I have shut down all new account registrations while I clean up the mess I woke up to.  After that I will try to think of a new way going forward to prevent this.  Please understand that I am using every counter-measure available within this forum software to try and stop this and they are still getting through.  Isn't AI a wonderful invention?  

AI can be. But it can also be a pAIn. 

I'm 100% for a mandatory $5 yearly fee or something. No bot would give us money at all, and if you own a plane you're fine giving $5 to a forum, I'd suspect.

Now leave me alone while I go learn how to cancel my Delta flights.

[NewMoon]

6 minutes ago, mooniac58 said:

If we do that they will just make more accounts.  For the time being I have shut down all new account registrations while I clean up the mess I woke up to.  After that I will try to think of a new way going forward to prevent this.  Please understand that I am using every counter-measure available within this forum software to try and stop this and they are still getting through.  Isn't AI a wonderful invention?  

Appreciate your work on this site. Thank you

[mooniac58]

That is one of the solutions for sure.  To do that I need to purchase an upgrade to the forum software for their "commerce" module that will automate payments.  We would have a basic level subscription of $2-$5 year and the premium one we have now for like $25 a year that would remove ads and give users more storage space, etc.

In addition to that I might also add an option to get the basic level access for free if you email me with a scan of your drivers license and a recent utility bill or something.

[PeteMc]

36 minutes ago, mooniac58 said:

After that I will try to think of a new way going forward to prevent this. 

I don't know if the site you use allows for questions to be asked before you can be accepted.  But properly worded... well improperly worded questions that will confuse AI might help.  If you don't answer the question correctly, you don't get in.  And then there's also a 24hr approval period, where the questions are reviewd and manually approved. 

 

[mooniac58]

8 minutes ago, PeteMc said:

I don't know if the site you use allows for questions to be asked before you can be accepted.  But properly worded... well improperly worded questions that will confuse AI might help.  If you don't answer the question correctly, you don't get in.  And then there's also a 24hr approval period, where the questions are reviewd and manually approved. 

 

Yes we already have questions to register.  I don't have the time to devote to manually reviewing each registrations questions.  This site is a hobby of mine and not a business venture - I already work 50-60 hours a week running my actual businesses.  I need this site to run automated 99% of the time to justify its existence. 

I am right now looking into the Commerce upgrade for the forums that will automate transactions with users so that even our current manual PayPal donation system will be replaced by something more automated.  Shortly I will post a new topic in the general forums outlining the plans and trying to weigh in on community input.

[1980Mooney]

31 minutes ago, mooniac58 said:

Yes we already have questions to register.  I don't have the time to devote to manually reviewing each registrations questions.  This site is a hobby of mine and not a business venture - I already work 50-60 hours a week running my actual businesses.  I need this site to run automated 99% of the time to justify its existence. 

I am right now looking into the Commerce upgrade for the forums that will automate transactions with users so that even our current manual PayPal donation system will be replaced by something more automated.  Shortly I will post a new topic in the general forums outlining the plans and trying to weigh in on community input.

Thanks for the time that you spend on this site.

[LANCECASPER]

1 hour ago, mooniac58 said:

That is one of the solutions for sure.  To do that I need to purchase an upgrade to the forum software for their "commerce" module that will automate payments.  We would have a basic level subscription of $2-$5 year and the premium one we have now for like $25 a year that would remove ads and give users more storage space, etc.

In addition to that I might also add an option to get the basic level access for free if you email me with a scan of your drivers license and a recent utility bill or something.

Something that works well on Beechtalk is that usernames are the person's verified first and last name. It keeps the conversations more civil as well.

[1980Mooney]

Can we put a limit of new posts per 24 hours in this forum?

1 hour ago, mooniac58 said:

If we do that they will just make more accounts.  

Also there is the Law of Unintended Consequences.....  If you limit the number of new posts per day, then no legitimate MS member will ever be able to post anything.  The AI/BOTS (that never sleep) will choke up the quota before any human can post any new topic in any 24 hour period.

 

 

[PeteMc]

1 hour ago, mooniac58 said:

I don't have the time to devote to manually reviewing each registrations questions. 

There are probably a few of us here with Admin or Support experience that can help with that kind of workload.  

 

[MikeOH]

As a supporter, I'm obviously fine with a fee, but another forum I frequent has seen a HUGE drop off in participation after implementing a mandatory fee.  Not sure what the psychology is, but I don't want to see any GA forum lose participation; we are a shrinking species as it is!

[GeeBee]

20 bucks is 3 gallons of avgas in my neighborhood. Anyone involved in aviation can afford that.

[MikeOH]

13 minutes ago, GeeBee said:

20 bucks is 3 gallons of avgas in my neighborhood. Anyone involved in aviation can afford that.

It's NOT about the affordability; there is some other psychology at work that chases people off once mandatory fees are imposed.

[mooniac58]

38 minutes ago, MikeOH said:

As a supporter, I'm obviously fine with a fee, but another forum I frequent has seen a HUGE drop off in participation after implementing a mandatory fee.  Not sure what the psychology is, but I don't want to see any GA forum lose participation; we are a shrinking species as it is!

A small one time fee of $3 (PayPal will take 50% of that in their fees) is likely what I will do with a secondary slower and free option of emailing me some docs to prove identity or something like that.  I still want people to be able to register for free - but if they create an account and want to post RIGHT NOW then they will need to pay the fee.   

[mooniac58]

44 minutes ago, PeteMc said:

There are probably a few of us here with Admin or Support experience that can help with that kind of workload.  

 

From what I can see in the forum software only administrator level accounts can approve/reject new accounts and that would mean anyone I gave that level of access to would also have the ability to essentially wipe out the entire site.

[MikeOH]

1 hour ago, mooniac58 said:

A small one time fee of $3 (PayPal will take 50% of that in their fees) is likely what I will do with a secondary slower and free option of emailing me some docs to prove identity or something like that.  I still want people to be able to register for free - but if they create an account and want to post RIGHT NOW then they will need to pay the fee.   

I think that is a pretty good solution!

[PeteMc]

6 hours ago, mooniac58 said:

From what I can see in the forum software only administrator level accounts can approve/reject new accounts and that would mean anyone I gave that level of access to would also have the ability to essentially wipe out the entire site.

I'm surprised there aren't different levels of access.  But even so, there are people that would know what to do and what not to do. 

But I get what you're saying...  So the first lesson would be on how to reload a backup! 

[midlifeflyer]

Here’s what I don’t understand. I have been in online groups since the days of AvSig on Compuserve and rec.aviation.* on Usenet. MooneySpace is one of several forums I participate in now.it is the only one that has continuously been attacked so voraciously.

why?

[varlajo]

1 hour ago, midlifeflyer said:

Here’s what I don’t understand. I have been in online groups since the days of AvSig on Compuserve and rec.aviation.* on Usenet. MooneySpace is one of several forums I participate in now.it is the only one that has continuously been attacked so voraciously.

why?

I see the exact same stuff, as in same phone numbers and same wording, on chess.com

[ArtVandelay]

Here’s what I don’t understand. I have been in online groups since the days of AvSig on Compuserve and rec.aviation.* on Usenet. MooneySpace is one of several forums I participate in now.it is the only one that has continuously been attacked so voraciously.
why?

Yeah, you would think POA, BT, or other more popular groups would be attacked.

[M20F]

Totally unrelated but does anyone know how to contact Ethiopian Airlines customer service?

[Pinecone]

On 8/2/2025 at 12:08 PM, mooniac58 said:

Yes we already have questions to register.  I don't have the time to devote to manually reviewing each registrations questions.  This site is a hobby of mine and not a business venture - I already work 50-60 hours a week running my actual businesses.  I need this site to run automated 99% of the time to justify its existence. 

How might consider enlisting a few others as mods to help do some of the grunt work.

[PeteMc]

On 8/2/2025 at 6:10 PM, midlifeflyer said:

it is the only one that has continuously been attacked so voraciously.

Part of it I'm assuming is the platform and that they have not stepped up to prevent Bots or Spammers from getting in to begin with, so they can then gain access to the individual sites here.  I had read a while back how Invision was taking a new direction.  And even though they are continuing the Invision Community, my guess is they are putting in the minimum resouces and funding. 

Then you have Craig keeping Mooneyspace up on his own.  If you look at some of the spam messages lately, they are all posted in a matter of minutes.  He could be having breakfast when that happens and they'll be there until he (alone) has the time to log in and remove them.   Multiple Admins (or us "SysOps" back in the AVSIG days ) apparently is a risk, again due to the single security level of All Access as an Admin.