Shadrach Posted July 19 Author Report Posted July 19 Just now, toto said: Eek “Shoelaces”…. They’ll get you every time. 3
Kelpro999 Posted July 19 Report Posted July 19 More like touchdown was successful but went downhill from there. 1
N201MKTurbo Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 It reminds me of when a friend of mine who had the fuel tester work its way to the back of the tail cone of a Citabria and jam the elevator. He landed successfully using power and trim. You never hear about the people who successfully deal with these things.
IvanP Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 Glad I only fly in loafers - one less risk factor . I recall once having a water bottle that passenger dropped getting slightly in the way of rudder pedals. Let;s say that it was an interesting landing. Fortunately, the outcome was good, save for few expletives directed at said passenger. 1
Shadrach Posted July 20 Author Report Posted July 20 2 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said: It reminds me of when a friend of mine who had the fuel tester work its way to the back of the tail cone of a Citabria and jam the elevator. He landed successfully using power and trim. You never hear about the people who successfully deal with these things. You do, it’s just that it usually comes from the horse’s mouth! I don’t know about your airport, but at mine there is no shortage of pilots that are willing tell you all about their heroism in overcoming challenging situations. 1
toto Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 In the Piper I fly, it’s really easy to get your foot caught on the firewall directly above the rudder pedals. If you aren’t careful, you can end up with no rudder control and no brakes on landing just because one or both feet got caught. Since I know it can happen, I normally do a check on final to be sure that my feet are sitting on the pedals properly. But it’s easy to screw up at the end of a long flight when you’re tired. Anyway - I can empathize with the shoelaces guy
PBones Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 The plane is nowhere close to the taxiway! How fast was he going that he split the plane in two and ended up by a fence? I am not buying the shoelace story at all since that should not have stopped him from using the brakes or hand brake. Come on!! 2
Andy95W Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 1 hour ago, BDPetersen said: There’s always velcro With enough bad luck, the hook portion would probably catch on the carpeted sidewalls.
Pinecone Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 Two of us have had an issue in my CAP-10. The tip of show gets caught and keeps you with some rudder input. NOT good in tailwheel aircraft I wear shoes made to track driving. 2
Shadrach Posted July 20 Author Report Posted July 20 22 minutes ago, bluehighwayflyer said: So sorry to see this. A long time ago I owned a PA28-180. I am tall and used the last stop in the seat rail but the downward angle of the yoke shaft and “bow tie” yoke design was such that I still had to consciously pull myself back into the seat prior to landing or I would run out of control travel in the flair. No idea what happened here, but it is scary stuff when there are control obstructions during a critical phase of flight. Piper later changed their yoke design in the PA28 and I’ve always wondered if this was why. I don’t know what happened here, but it seems unlikely that you’d rip a gear leg off at taxi speed. I shoot for <10kts when taxing a a tail dragger. 1
Shadrach Posted July 20 Author Report Posted July 20 50 minutes ago, Pinecone said: Two of us have had an issue in my CAP-10. The tip of show gets caught and keeps you with some rudder input. NOT good in tailwheel aircraft I wear shoes made to track driving. Flip flops fit nicely in the door pocket of the Decathlon. I had got a flat last month at MTN. I wonder how I would have faired on landing if it held air for take off and deflated in flight. I think the wheel fairing would have suffered.
Shadrach Posted July 20 Author Report Posted July 20 6 minutes ago, bluehighwayflyer said: Agreed. At the end of the day I guess it was pilot error regardless. Likely the case. Maybe the FAA will incorporate knot tying into the 709 ride requirements… There but by the grace of god go I… 2
N201MKTurbo Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 And people tease me for flying barefoot. I just do it for safety. 3
1980Mooney Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 1 hour ago, Shadrach said: Flip flops fit nicely in the door pocket of the Decathlon. Flip flops sound like a bad idea - can easily fall off and get lost somewhere that the pilot cannot reach while flying. I can see them jamming a seat rail or lodging up front between the linkages and firewall at a critical time. Remember the dropped and loose iPad that likely led to the 2022 Chinook crash? Dropped iPad implicated in fatal Rotak Chinook helicopter crash - Vertical Mag
Shadrach Posted July 20 Author Report Posted July 20 2 hours ago, 1980Mooney said: Flip flops sound like a bad idea - can easily fall off and get lost somewhere that the pilot cannot reach while flying. I can see them jamming a seat rail or lodging up front between the linkages and firewall at a critical time. Remember the dropped and loose iPad that likely led to the 2022 Chinook crash? Dropped iPad implicated in fatal Rotak Chinook helicopter crash - Vertical Mag Side pocket is rigid so flip flops wedge in tightly… Front seat in Decathlon has two positions forward and aft. Once you’re belted into the five point harness, you’re not moving and neither is the seat.
1980Mooney Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 1 minute ago, Shadrach said: Side pocket is rigid so flip flops wedge in tightly… Front seat in Decathlon has two positions forward and aft. Once you’re belted into the five point harness, you’re not moving and neither is the seat. That sounds right for a fully acrobatic Decathlon with inverted oil system. I was commenting in general and non-aerobat Mooney in particular. The moment I drop anything in my Mooney while flying, it is generally gone until landing or if a passenger can find it.... 1
Shadrach Posted July 20 Author Report Posted July 20 28 minutes ago, 1980Mooney said: That sounds right for a fully acrobatic Decathlon with inverted oil system. I was commenting in general and non-aerobat Mooney in particular. The moment I drop anything in my Mooney while flying, it is generally gone until landing or if a passenger can find it.... True. I don’t feel compelled to fly barefoot in the Mooney. It’s a pussy cat to land compared to the Decathlon. I often go bare foot in taildraggers not because I’m worried about rudder inputs but because I’m less likely to inadvertently drag a brake in bare feet.
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