laser speed mod costs

[billy hellcat]

Anybody know the pricing for the laser speed mods.

What would it cost to put all the speed mods on a M20C?  Ball park number.  

 

Thanks!!! Looking at buying one that has everything on it already.

[MikeOH]

Sorry I don't have any idea what it would cost today but I bought my F with all the mods already on it.  I think you should do the same!

Keep in mind Lasar is under new ownership and has moved out of California.  I'm not sure if they even offer all the mods anymore; you should probably call them.  I think some of them involve substantial labor to install...IMHO it's just not going to be worth it.

[Hank]

22 minutes ago, MikeOH said:

Keep in mind Lasar is under new ownership and has moved out of California.  I'm not sure if they even offer all the mods anymore; you should probably call them.  I think some of them involve substantial labor to install...IMHO it's just not going to be worth it.

Mike, he's not looking to install them, rather a valuation for what they add to the base plane.

35 minutes ago, billy hellcat said:

Looking at buying one that has everything on it already.

I'd reach out to Jimmy Garrison for the pricing guide. @jgarrison

[DCarlton]

7 hours ago, billy hellcat said:

Anybody know the pricing for the laser speed mods.

What would it cost to put all the speed mods on a M20C?  Ball park number.  

 

Thanks!!! Looking at buying one that has everything on it already.

VREF has a couple of drop down options for cowl and speed mods.  I just ran the VREF for my F.  I was surprised how little it adds for the mods.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ?  Mr. Garrisons price guide may suggest something different.  BTW the folks that sell the mods used to advertise how many hours to plan for each mod.  That data may be floating around in the ether if you search.  

[Jeph357]

19 hours ago, billy hellcat said:

Anybody know the pricing for the laser speed mods.

What would it cost to put all the speed mods on a M20C?  Ball park number.  

 

Thanks!!! Looking at buying one that has everything on it already.

https://lasar.com/stc-kits

[1980Mooney]

12 hours ago, DCarlton said:

VREF has a couple of drop down options for cowl and speed mods.  I just ran the VREF for my F.  I was surprised how little it adds for the mods.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ?  Mr. Garrisons price guide may suggest something different.  BTW the folks that sell the mods used to advertise how many hours to plan for each mod.  That data may be floating around in the ether if you search.  

Spot on.  You never get back what you invest.  Many modifications are overhyped.  Yes they generally produce some improvement, but many are disappointed.  See thread from 2010 below. Some deliver big improvement - like putting an IO-550A into a M20J - but at the penalty of operating cost.    

Here is an example.  There is a 1982 M20J, N301TV. They want $199K.  The same plane was for sale in 2020 here on MS with more specs shown.

It has a Missile (IO-550A) conversion by Rocket Engineering in Dec 1996 - that cost $60K back then - about $120k in today's dollar

It had CAV TKS installed - someone on MS in 2020 said that costs $75K

It has Monroy Long Range Tanks - that costs about $10K today

It was painted in 2019 - that costs about 15-20K today

It has Aspen 2000 Pro MAX with GPSS adapter - about $30K today

So we are up to $255K for mods and upgrades.....excluding the cost of the basic airframe

A lot of J's with mid-time engines (1,000 hours on this one) are asking $135-140K,  If you add the "current cost" of the modifications it should sell for almost $400K.....but it doesnt and won't.

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