dominikos Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 by stupid hangar mistake i found myself in need of either repair or a replacement elevator. I’m new to this so would appreciate suggestion where to look for something like this. attached picture to illustrate damage. Thanks, Dominik
BillC Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 Don’t feel bad Dominik, I did the same thing years ago to my J. Dodson International in Kansas has several J’s they are parting out. Address is on Controller. 1
EricJ Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 It may be repairable. Check with your A&P/IA about decent local sheet metal talent.
M20F-1968 Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 The best structural repair shop I know of is Beegles Aircraft, Colorado. They are first class, do excellent work and are trustworthy. John Breda 1
Rwsavory Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 Looks like you're in Texas. If that's the case, Don Maxwell in Longview is a good resource. 1
Missile=Awesome Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 I buggered a flap years ago. I feel your pain. Winter and I was trying so hard to get up and in on a north facing icing entry I forgot I had a vertical support...got to deep and arghhhhhh... “it” happens. Live and learn.
BillC Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 I got prices for my damaged elevator and it would have cost more to repair than what I paid for a used half elevator. And the paint matched perfectly.
MooneyMitch Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 3 hours ago, BillC said: Don’t feel bad Dominik, I did the same thing years ago to my J. Dodson International in Kansas has several J’s they are parting out. Address is on Controller. Ditto on Dodson (I had an excellent experience with them).
Jerry Pressley Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 Looks like rh side. I haver a ni9ce one i can package and send. You price it. Jerry Pressley 423 231 3491 1
dominikos Posted November 14, 2020 Author Report Posted November 14, 2020 Thanks Jerry, will drop you a note. and good observation on RH.
Tim Jodice Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 Is it not practical/possible to buy new skin from Mooney?
MooneyMitch Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Tim Jodice said: Is it not practical/possible to buy new skin from Mooney? EXPENSIVE to reskin
Tim Jodice Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 Just now, MooneyMitch said: EXPENSIVE to reskin What would it cost?
MooneyMitch Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 When replacing the elevator, you might consider checking balance of replacement unit prior to installation.
MooneyMitch Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 Just now, Tim Jodice said: What would it cost? I don’t recall the quote I received several years ago. I do recall procurement of another elevator made much more financial sense. Dodson was my go to vendor.
dominikos Posted November 14, 2020 Author Report Posted November 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, MooneyMitch said: When replacing the elevator, you might consider checking balance of replacement unit prior to installation. still learning, so perhaps a silly question... what does it mean to check balance? I saw comment about balancing after repainting...
Tim Jodice Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, MooneyMitch said: I don’t recall the quote I received several years ago. I do recall procurement of another elevator made much more financial sense. Dodson was my go to vendor. Are we talking Ruddervator prices? Last time I read they still aren't available but when they are they are they are speculated to cost $10,000+ each.
MooneyMitch Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, dominikos said: still learning, so perhaps a silly question... what does it mean to check balance? I saw comment about balancing after repainting... Lots of super duper technical folks available to us all here on MS, and you might be a beneficiary of one or more of them with your question. However, I’m not one of them Balancing a flight control unit has to do with flutter. You don’t want that! On the Mooney control surfaces, correct balance is done with weight on the outter edge of the unit (or upper if it’s a rudder). Balance parameters are found in the Mooney service manual for your particular airplane. The aircraft paint facility I used provided balancing verification after painting the airplanes. Possibly your local mechanic or FBO can provide this procedure.
MooneyMitch Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tim Jodice said: Are we talking Ruddervator prices? Last time I read they still aren't available but when they are they are they are speculated to cost $10,000+ each. My situation was an elevator.
Tim Jodice Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 Maybe @Jonny could educate us on current availability and price on flight control skins.
Missile=Awesome Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 Never sad when Reaper does his work. Critical Components are needed in an aged fleet. A positive of a sad event, like donor from a loss of life, allowing another to live on. So it is with Mooney salvage... 1
MooneyMitch Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tim Jodice said: Maybe @Jonny could educate us on current availability and price on flight control skins. My experience...... skin cost was not an issue..... ‘‘twas the labor cost to install the skin that made my skin crawl...
MooneyMitch Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 There might be some elevators on eBay too!
carusoam Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 The usual Mooney part collectors around here... @Alan Fox NJ @Jerry Pressley TN @SheryLoewen CA -a-
Tim Jodice Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, MooneyMitch said: My experience...... skin cost was not an issue..... ‘‘twas the labor cost to install the skin that made my skin crawl... How many hours does it take to reskin a flight control on a Mooney? The only first hand experience I have in flight control reskining was a rudder on a Piper Arrow. It was 9 hours worth of labor. Removing, reskining, painting (one color) balancing, and installing. I don't know how much the skin cost.
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