Pshap31 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Posted January 14, 2018 I am looking for a great mechanic that would be willing to do a good pre-buy inspection on a 1965 Mooney M20C in Placerville, CA. Quote
carusoam Posted January 14, 2018 Report Posted January 14, 2018 Welcome aboard, Pshap. Is Lasar, near Placerville? my apologies in advance, my West coast geography is very strong... Best regards, -a- Quote
Pshap31 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Posted January 14, 2018 It's about three hours away. Not sure if they'll travel. This is my first GA purchase and I'm definietly nervous and trying to do it right. Quote
kortopates Posted January 14, 2018 Report Posted January 14, 2018 That's easy, Top Gun is a very respected MSC very close at Stockton. Go there unless they've been maintaining it for the previous owner since a fresh pair of eyes is always a good idea. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Joe Larussa Posted January 14, 2018 Report Posted January 14, 2018 Try Dave at Lincoln Skyways in Lincoln. They did my 77 201. Quote
bonal Posted January 14, 2018 Report Posted January 14, 2018 Welcome to the Space. LASAR and Top Gun would be great choices but I don't think they would come to you. Is the seller willing to take the plane away from its home field for the PPI. LASAR has a very comprehensive pre purchase check list on their web sight this can give you some good starting points for your own inspection. good luck Quote
Pshap31 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Posted January 14, 2018 Thank you for all the tips. I will have to see if they will allow it to go to LASAR or Top Gun. I will see if they have a mechanic that will be able to travel Quote
carusoam Posted January 14, 2018 Report Posted January 14, 2018 Many have found... if you are serious about buying that particular plane, and the purchase depends on a successful PPI. Planes usually can be moved to a reputable MSC for the PPI to occur... Being serious about that particular plane takes getting to know it yourself, or by somebody you trust to make that decision... I sent a low hour Mooney to a big name MSC after a cursory visit and having all the logs and photos emailed to me. After the PPI, a couple of maintenance items were completed. The plane was ready to start transition training in.... The PPI was completed by a few more steps to turn it into a full annual. Good to go for another year... Moving a plane, you haven't seen yet, can be too expensive to have PPIs done so quickly... How far along are you with this plane? Best regards, -a- Quote
Pshap31 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) Great idea knocking out an annual with the PPI. The plane is at a company that resells planes. I have attached a link to it here and would appreciate positive and negative feedback. I am hoping to fly it in a couple of weeks and would be ready to put a refundable hold on it prior to the PPI and ready to move forward with the sale if the PPI comes back satisfactorily. I have a hangar lined up and am working on insurance quotes. Edited January 14, 2018 by Pshap31 typo Quote
Joe Larussa Posted January 14, 2018 Report Posted January 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Pshap31 said: Great idea knocking out an annual with the PPI. The plane is at a company that resells planes. I have attached a link to it here and would appreciate positive and negative feedback. I am hoping to fly it in a couple of weeks and would be ready to put a refundable hold on it prior to the PPI and ready to move forward with the sale if the PPI comes back satisfactorily. I have a hangar lined up and am working on insurance quotes. Maybe I missed it but are you in California? Quote
carusoam Posted January 14, 2018 Report Posted January 14, 2018 Wow, lots of updates since it was first manufactured. And really low hours for a 50year old plane... A long list of things to test while you go flying... Sounds like the owner has everything listed and should be operating... lots of expensive radios and AP. You want to know everything is working. I have sat right seat while the owner flew the plane for that kind of thing. Build a list of what you want to test and how you can get that done in a simple flight. Or have that as part of the PPI. The flight from where it is to the MSC can be part of the PPI. I had Don Maxwell move my O this way to test each piece of nav equipment and control down to the last light bulb. It is a cost you get to bare as the potential owner. You get to pay to prove the plane is what you expect it to be. In the end, when everything works as planned, you fly Home as happy as possible. There is no standard for PPIs. They are what you make them. From low cost to full annuals. Start with the big expensive stuff first. No need to proceed, if something major gets found... Not all PPIs end with a sale... PP thoughts, only... -a- Quote
Guest Posted January 14, 2018 Report Posted January 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Pshap31 said: I am looking for a great mechanic that would be willing to do a good pre-buy inspection on a 1965 Mooney M20C in Placerville, CA. I’ve never figure out how to download this PPI check list but here’s the thread. Search “PPI check list” I hope this helps. Clarence Quote
Joe Larussa Posted January 14, 2018 Report Posted January 14, 2018 Looks like the displays on the KX 155's will need attention. Quote
Guest Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Why dual 155’s and an SL40 comm? The Apollo GX 55 is not approach capable. Clock is sideways, S-Tec gyro is in turn when plane isn’t moving. Clarence Edited January 15, 2018 by M20Doc Quote
Pshap31 Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Joe Larussa said: Maybe I missed it but are you in California? Yes I am...Roseville Quote
Pshap31 Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, M20Doc said: Why dual 155’s and an SL40 comm? The Apollo GX 55 is not approach capable. Clock is sideways, S-Tec gyro is in turn when plane isn’t moving. Clarence Yeah I actually took the photo when I had it coupled to autopilot. Avionics are a little old but serviceable. Was gonna get a Garmin 430 put in it.. More kind of wondering about the avionics for the price. Quote
KLRDMD Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Pshap31 said: Great idea knocking out an annual with the PPI. The plane is at a company that resells planes. I have attached a link to it here and would appreciate positive and negative feedback. I am hoping to fly it in a couple of weeks and would be ready to put a refundable hold on it prior to the PPI and ready to move forward with the sale if the PPI comes back satisfactorily. I have a hangar lined up and am working on insurance quotes. I know someone that went to look at that airplane this weekend. Haven't heard if he made an offer on it or not. Quote
larryb Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 You should search this site for comments on that dealer. There was a thread recently. Quote
Joe Larussa Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 Looks like the displays on the KX 155's will need attention. Quote
Joe Larussa Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 I bought a 172 from them about 15 years ago Quote
Joe Larussa Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 42 minutes ago, Pshap31 said: Yes I am...Roseville I'm in Lincoln. Let me know if I can help. Quote
gsxrpilot Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 If Skywagons won't allow the plane to go to LASAR or TopGun for a pre-buy, I would not buy the plane. 2 Quote
gsxrpilot Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 59 minutes ago, larryb said: You should search this site for comments on that dealer. There was a thread recently. Quote
Bug Smasher Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 It's a 40 minute flight to LASAR. Take it to Robert Brown and have him and his guys do a PPI. Quote
Pshap31 Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, KLRDMD said: I know someone that went to look at that airplane this weekend. Haven't heard if he made an offer on it or not. I read all of the thread on Skywagons. Thank you guys for steering me onto that thread. Mark struck me and my wife as being very much in the business of getting planes sold. (started right up front with telling us the plane was in high demand. We do really like the plane but I think she and I are both in agreement that it needs to go to Top Gun or Lasar for the pre buy or it will be a no-go. Again I thank you all so much for your input and advice. I've been flying military for almost 13 years but getting into this on my own dime is terrifying/exhilarating. I've literally learned so much in the process though I am feeling less and less anxious for when the right plane does come along. Edited January 15, 2018 by Pshap31 Quote
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