flyboy0681 Posted October 31, 2017 Report Posted October 31, 2017 For those of you who have been following my posts about the repair to Six-One-Zulu, here is an update - along with a question. A wing from a K model was located and purchased by the repair station doing the work. I was a bit elated because I thought that we would benefit from the larger fuel capacity of the K wing, but it doesn't look like it was meant to be. The repair station reported that they can't find a DER that would approve of the mating of the K wing on a J body, and therefore, will be using only the needed components from the K wing to repair the damaged sections of the J wing. A Google search resulted in only one case of a K wing being joined to a J model, by Air-Mods. I was wondering if anybody out there has had any experience with this unique situation and what could be done for an approval. Quote
aviatoreb Posted October 31, 2017 Report Posted October 31, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 12:00 AM, flyboy0681 said: For those of you who have been following my posts about the repair to Six-One-Zulu, here is an update - along with a question. A wing from a K model was located and purchased by the repair station doing the work. I was a bit elated because I thought that we would benefit from the larger fuel capacity of the K wing, but it doesn't look like it was meant to be. The repair station reported that they can't find a DER that would approve of the mating of the K wing on a J body, and therefore, will be using only the needed components from the K wing to repair the damaged sections of the J wing. A Google search resulted in only one case of a K wing being joined to a J model, by Air-Mods. I was wondering if anybody out there has had any experience with this unique situation and what could be done for an approval. Expand I know that laser has done that kind of thing. Quote
carusoam Posted October 31, 2017 Report Posted October 31, 2017 Keep up the search. It would be better to have a whole wing connected than reassembling a wing from parts... PP thoughts only, not a mechanic... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
bradp Posted October 31, 2017 Report Posted October 31, 2017 Can you call up to Dave @ Air mods? There is often more than one solution to a problem. It just takes some motivation and ingenuity. 1 Quote
Piloto Posted October 31, 2017 Report Posted October 31, 2017 Check with Coy Jacobs, he is an expert on this kind of things. Quote
Hank Posted October 31, 2017 Report Posted October 31, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 4:11 AM, Piloto said: Check with Coy Jacobs, he is an expert on this kind of things. Expand I thought Coy passed away last year? Quote
LANCECASPER Posted November 1, 2017 Report Posted November 1, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 11:17 PM, Hank said: I thought Coy passed away last year? Expand Cal Hensley died earlier this year. Maybe that's who you are thinking about. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/heraldtribune/obituary.aspx?pid=185435687 Quote
Hank Posted November 1, 2017 Report Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) On 11/1/2017 at 12:10 AM, LANCECASPER said: Cal Hensley died last year. Maybe that's who you are thinking about. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/heraldtribune/obituary.aspx?pid=185435687 Expand Nope. Mooneyland was on my mind, that was Richard Zephro. My bad . . . Call Coy! (How'd you get that Harley up on the high dive, Coy???--nope, different Coy, Mr. Jacobs ain't from Hahira.) Edited November 1, 2017 by Hank Quote
LANCECASPER Posted November 1, 2017 Report Posted November 1, 2017 On 11/1/2017 at 12:13 AM, Hank said: Nope. Mooneykand was in my mind, that was Richard Zephro. My bad . . . Call Coy! (How'd you get that Harley up on the high dive, Coy???--nope, different Coy, Mr. Jacobs ain't from Hahira.) Expand Richard Zephro died 5-1/2 years ago. http://www.mooneyland.com/richard-zef-zephro/ Quote
Hank Posted November 1, 2017 Report Posted November 1, 2017 On 11/1/2017 at 12:16 AM, LANCECASPER said: He died 5-1/2 years ago. http://www.mooneyland.com/richard-zef-zephro/ Expand Wow, time flies! It's been very busy for me, moved 600 miles, changed airports three times, changed jobs twice, and lived three places (apartment, condo, house). And that's just the last 3-1/2 years . . . Quote
Jerry Pressley Posted November 1, 2017 Report Posted November 1, 2017 Coy Jacobs was at sun and fun last year and is pretty well gone. I sold his partner their first Mooney to mod when he was out in St. Louis area. Wamauma Fl. is the new place for the brains behind Coy. They no longer deal together. Quote
flyboy0681 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Report Posted November 1, 2017 So I guess nobody has any insight into my original question. Quote
jetdriven Posted November 1, 2017 Report Posted November 1, 2017 Take it To air mods. They're the best shop for that kind of work anyways. What kind of shop buys a wing without first determining they can use it? 1 Quote
N6758N Posted November 1, 2017 Report Posted November 1, 2017 On 11/1/2017 at 5:16 PM, jetdriven said: Take it To air mods. They're the best shop for that kind of work anyways. What kind of shop buys a wing without first determining they can use it? Expand Seriously. They are one of the only places I would consider when doing this kind of work. At least call them and see if they can help you with the DER side of things to use the K wing, I think they've done it once before as already mentioned. Quote
flyboy0681 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Report Posted November 1, 2017 On 11/1/2017 at 5:23 PM, N6758N said: Seriously. They are one of the only places I would consider when doing this kind of work. At least call them and see if they can help you with the DER side of things to use the K wing, I think they've done it once before as already mentioned. Expand Already contacted Dave. No response yet. I've contacted Don Maxwell and Dave at Air-mods and can't get either one of them to respond back. Maybe I should change my brand of deodorant. Quote
Shadrach Posted November 1, 2017 Report Posted November 1, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 12:00 AM, flyboy0681 said: For those of you who have been following my posts about the repair to Six-One-Zulu, here is an update - along with a question. A wing from a K model was located and purchased by the repair station doing the work. I was a bit elated because I thought that we would benefit from the larger fuel capacity of the K wing, but it doesn't look like it was meant to be. The repair station reported that they can't find a DER that would approve of the mating of the K wing on a J body, and therefore, will be using only the needed components from the K wing to repair the damaged sections of the J wing. A Google search resulted in only one case of a K wing being joined to a J model, by Air-Mods. I was wondering if anybody out there has had any experience with this unique situation and what could be done for an approval. Expand Can you link the thread that explains what happened to Six-One-Zulu? I've searched, but I can't seem to find anything relating to you or the the plane that give me any background. Quote
flyboy0681 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Report Posted November 1, 2017 On 11/1/2017 at 5:37 PM, Shadrach said: Can you link the thread that explains what happened to Six-One-Zulu? I've searched, but I can't seem to find anything relating to you or the the plane that give me any background. Expand The saga starts on page 7 of the Hurricane Irma post Quote
Shadrach Posted November 1, 2017 Report Posted November 1, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 12:00 AM, flyboy0681 said: For those of you who have been following my posts about the repair to Six-One-Zulu, here is an update - along with a question. A wing from a K model was located and purchased by the repair station doing the work. I was a bit elated because I thought that we would benefit from the larger fuel capacity of the K wing, but it doesn't look like it was meant to be. The repair station reported that they can't find a DER that would approve of the mating of the K wing on a J body, and therefore, will be using only the needed components from the K wing to repair the damaged sections of the J wing. A Google search resulted in only one case of a K wing being joined to a J model, by Air-Mods. I was wondering if anybody out there has had any experience with this unique situation and what could be done for an approval. Expand It's a shame that Kosola and Associates is no more. They were in Albany, GA and were a stand up DER firm. Does anyone know if Harold Kosola does any consulting work since selling the firm? The K wing to J fuselage seems to present little in the way of additional challenges. It seems rediculous to tear two wings apart when an undamaged factory built unit is available. The fuel system (Bendix vs Continental) and capacity are different, other than that, I'm trying to consieve of the differences. Quote
KSMooniac Posted November 1, 2017 Report Posted November 1, 2017 There is no Kosola listed in the current DER directory.Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk 1 Quote
tomgo2 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Posted January 3, 2018 Anyone know how to get a hold of Coy Jacobs? I would like to speak to him about the RAJAY Turbo STCs that are still in his name. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 11:58 PM, tomgo2 said: Anyone know how to get a hold of Coy Jacobs? I would like to speak to him about the RAJAY Turbo STCs that are still in his name. FWIW, Here is another guy advertising Rajay turbo STCs for E,F, and J.http://m20turbos.hypermart.net/turbo_kits.htm Quote
Mjknick@gmail.com Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 On 10/31/2017 at 1:11 AM, aviatoreb said: I know that laser has done that kind of thing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Mjknick@gmail.com Posted January 5, 2018 Report Posted January 5, 2018 You need a FSDO that understands that tearing a wing apart is not smart. Either a good J wing or a FSDO that will work with you. Some FAA FSDO’s are in the drag your feet mentality and not helpful. There are many that have great maintenance inspectors that will work with you. You might need to move the project. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
flyboy0681 Posted January 5, 2018 Author Report Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 11:20 PM, Mjknick@gmail.com said: You need a FSDO that understands that tearing a wing apart is not smart. Either a good J wing or a FSDO that will work with you. Some FAA FSDO’s are in the drag your feet mentality and not helpful. There are many that have great maintenance inspectors that will work with you. You might need to move the project. Expand After nearly three months, the work is almost complete. 1 Quote
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