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Have one piece on order. Been six months. Anyone have panels or preferably a one piece for a 68 G.  Let me know 803 463 6043 is my cell. Have a great day and fly safely.

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The conversion belly is total garbage , I have shipped them , The non ribbed is approx 25 lbs , dont know what the ribbed version is , the panels weigh less than 10 lbs ,  If your mechanic is too lazy to take an extra 10 minutes each way to remove and reinstall , where else is he being lazy....   We have these magic new inventions , electric screw guns/drills...   If it is what we call a scab ( not flush mounted ) it may not be a hard conversion...

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8 minutes ago, Alan Fox said:

The conversion belly is total garbage , I have shipped them , The non ribbed is approx 25 lbs , dont know what the ribbed version is , the panels weigh less than 10 lbs ,  If your mechanic is too lazy to take an extra 10 minutes each way to remove and reinstall , where else is he being lazy....   We have these magic new inventions , electric screw guns/drills...   If it is what we call a scab ( not flush mounted ) it may not be a hard conversion...

Even with a screwdriver it doesn’t take too long.

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12 hours ago, M20Doc said:

Even with a screwdriver it doesn’t take too long.

Agreed , but somehow , it is a well accepted selling point , as BVogus as it is...

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First time I pulled mine I thought from the reading here that I was going to be in for a real bear.

I’d say ten, maybe fifteen min. But if you’re doing it for the first time have a whole handful of proper screws with you. I don’t know why people have such a hard time understanding which screw goes into a tinnerman nut. Hint if it has a sharp tip, it’s the incorrect screw.

I’d be extraordinarily surprised if two ribs could cost enough speed to be measurable, certainly not ten kts. But then I’ve not seen these ribs, but I have in my mind two long Marker beacon antenna’s?

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1 hour ago, A64Pilot said:

First time I pulled mine I thought from the reading here that I was going to be in for a real bear.

I’d say ten, maybe fifteen min. But if you’re doing it for the first time have a whole handful of proper screws with you. I don’t know why people have such a hard time understanding which screw goes into a tinnerman nut. Hint if it has a sharp tip, it’s the incorrect screw.

I’d be extraordinarily surprised if two ribs could cost enough speed to be measurable, certainly not ten kts. But then I’ve not seen these ribs, but I have in my mind two long Marker beacon antenna’s?

Screws with a sharp point are PK screws meant to thread into Tinnerman clip on nuts.  

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PK is I believe a brand name of sheet metal screw, but it’s really a Type A truss head screw

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/tha.php?clickkey=4307626

However what’s supposed to go into a tinnerman nut plate ( AKA speed nuts) is a Type B truss head screw

The type B nut is a thicker shank and when you tighten the screw it pulls the bent part of the nut plate into the screw shank and becomes self locking, Type A screw, won’t.

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/trusstypeb.php?clickkey=4307626

This from Boeing 0029.pdf?context=bWFzdGVyfHBkZnw5OTgyMTl

Note: Speed nuts for aircraft are designed to fit standard AN530 type “B” or “Z” sheet metal screws only. Information on speed nuts for commercial use with stan- dard machine screws and “A” type screws will be furnished upon request. Important: DO NOT USE POINTED TYPE “A” SHEET METAL SCREWS WITH AIRCRAFT SPEED NUTS. There is a difference in root diameter and thread pitch!

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