Hank Posted April 23, 2018 Report Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, chrisk said: I love it. I really like the paint job too. That said, if I ever paint another plane, the belly will be white... I'm always wanting to clean the white exhaust marks off my red belly. I'd image blue is just the same. --especially with a plane that shows off your work. White vehicles attract dark-colored dirt. Black vehicles attract light-colored dirt. Pick you poison . . . . . you can't avoid all of it. I'm not sure that an "exhaust colored" fuselage would look good with avgas-blue wings! 1 1 Quote
carusoam Posted June 7, 2018 Report Posted June 7, 2018 This one seems to need a few things... Does it have an upgrade plan yet? Same as 205J or even newer? Is the rotary ignition switch staying, or are there worthy alternatives? Looking forward to the pics. Best regards, -a- Quote
Marauder Posted June 7, 2018 Report Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, carusoam said: This one seems to need a few things... Does it have an upgrade plan yet? Same as 205J or even newer? Is the rotary ignition switch staying, or are there worthy alternatives? Looking forward to the pics. Best regards, -a- He is installing his G500 TXi. I noticed that rotary ignition switch as well. Round bad. Square good. Quote
Rmag Posted June 7, 2018 Author Report Posted June 7, 2018 59 minutes ago, Marauder said: He is installing his G500 TXi. I noticed that rotary ignition switch as well. Round bad. Square good. What's wrong with the round? Quote
Rmag Posted June 7, 2018 Author Report Posted June 7, 2018 3 hours ago, carusoam said: Does it have an upgrade plan yet? Same as 205J or even newer? Yes and Yes, exactly the same Quote
Marauder Posted June 7, 2018 Report Posted June 7, 2018 What's wrong with the round? Round BAD! Square (okay rectangle) GOOD! I want to see you the owner of the premiere avionics shop in the mid Atlantic go wild! You’re halfway there now! 2 Quote
Rmag Posted June 7, 2018 Author Report Posted June 7, 2018 @Marauder the pics didn’t come through. Is there a mechanical problem or are we just talking aesthetics? Quote
Marauder Posted June 7, 2018 Report Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Rmag said: @Marauder the pics didn’t come through. Is there a mechanical problem or are we just talking aesthetics? Yeah, I don't what has happened a few times today with picture posting. Just wouldn't post them. And, oh yeah. Round bad, square good. Quote
Marauder Posted June 7, 2018 Report Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) ROUND BAD! SQUARE, ER RECTANGLE GOOD! Edited June 7, 2018 by Marauder Quote
LANCECASPER Posted June 7, 2018 Report Posted June 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Marauder said: ROUND BAD! SQUARE, ER RECTANGLE GOOD! In the aviation world the price of that ignition switch is a complete bargain and it comes in horizontal or vertical. RMag would be crazy to do a new panel without putting one of these in. 1 Quote
kortopates Posted June 8, 2018 Report Posted June 8, 2018 Do they have a STC to install only the switch with conventional mags?Honestly, I think it takes too much valuable panel space for many of us.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
gsxrpilot Posted June 8, 2018 Report Posted June 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, kortopates said: Do they have a STC to install only the switch with conventional mags? Honestly, I think it takes too much valuable panel space for many of us. Yes, it's STC'd for conventional mags as well. I was going to do this as part of my panel upgrade and was about to place the order. But I'm glad I checked the size as I just didn't have room in my panel for that Electroair switch. It's just too big. 1 Quote
LANCECASPER Posted June 8, 2018 Report Posted June 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, kortopates said: Do they have a STC to install only the switch with conventional mags? Honestly, I think it takes too much valuable panel space for many of us. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes they do (http://www.electroair.net/switchPanel.html) 1 Quote
Hank Posted June 8, 2018 Report Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marauder said: Nah, I'll pass. Don't need a non-functional switch ("EIS") on the panel. Besides, mine's kind of full . . . . See the switch in the bottom left? Never understood how so many planes have the ignition above other instruments for the rest of your keyring to bang into and block your vision of. Three keys for the plane (ignition, door and baggage are all different), hangar, old hangar, maintenance. Where else should I keep them? Edited June 8, 2018 by Hank Quote
gsxrpilot Posted June 8, 2018 Report Posted June 8, 2018 Actually the EIS switch is your second Mag in an aircraft with two conventional mags. I agree on the space used though. My panel is not what most would call crowded or cluttered, but there still isn't room where the existing ignition switch is for this oversized switch. Quote
Rmag Posted June 8, 2018 Author Report Posted June 8, 2018 What I’m doing is: 1. Replacing fuel senders with CiES 2. Replacing G500 and JPI EDM 930 with Garmin G500 TXi w/ EIS. Keeping the keys 4 Quote
carusoam Posted June 8, 2018 Report Posted June 8, 2018 Right above the throttle and prop controls looks like some handy space... Close to the tach... Push the switch, watch the tach... repeat... Nicely located for the SIC, in the event.... It just makes operational sense... Especially if you lose count of the rotary clicks... (I don’t usually observe the rotary switch while doing the run-up, busy with instruments and looking out the windows) Switches with an un confusable click would go really nice with a touch screen TXi... How about some electronic ignition to go with that? Best regards, -a- I didn’t type fast enough to get this in before Rmag finished his last post... 1 Quote
LANCECASPER Posted June 8, 2018 Report Posted June 8, 2018 44 minutes ago, Rmag said: What I’m doing is: 1. Replacing fuel senders with CiES 2. Replacing G500 and JPI EDM 930 with Garmin G500 TXi w/ EIS. Keeping the keys Until the next upgrade next year Quote
mike_elliott Posted June 9, 2018 Report Posted June 9, 2018 8 hours ago, Hyett6420 said: Sad face, i thought AL was the nicest J in the fleet. AL is a LOVELY bird, Andrew. No offense meant of course 1 Quote
Igor_U Posted June 12, 2018 Report Posted June 12, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 5:48 PM, Marauder said: Round BAD! Square (okay rectangle) GOOD! I want to see you the owner of the premiere avionics shop in the mid Atlantic go wild! You’re halfway there now! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Do you have this switch installed? Were there any changes in wiring needed or just a direct swap? Thank you. Quote
Marauder Posted June 12, 2018 Report Posted June 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, Igor_U said: Do you have this switch installed? Were there any changes in wiring needed or just a direct swap? Thank you. I don't but I like the idea of modernizing my 1970's style ignition switch. I would also be interested in hearing if anyone else has experience with it. Quote
Igor_U Posted June 12, 2018 Report Posted June 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Marauder said: I don't but I like the idea of modernizing my 1970's style ignition switch. I would also be interested in hearing if anyone else has experience with it. Yes, I hear you. The question really is how would this work with "shower of sparks" on pre-J Mooney. It seems our Bendix switch has one extra function Electroair does not; when you rotate to "start" you need to push in to engage the starter. Anyone has Electroair swith installed? Thank you. Quote
Rmag Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Posted June 21, 2018 Hi all: Just got the upgrade done. I test flew it for 2 hours yesterday putting it through its paces and fortunately came out squawk free. I will be providing some PIREPs in the future after I get some more time flying behind the new setup. For now I figured I would post some snapshots of the conversion. Garmin G500 and JPI EDM 930 were replaced with the Garmin G500 TXi and the new integrated Engine Information System (EIS). Also had CiES Fuel Senders installed for increased accuracy since one negative of the Garmin EIS on the single 10.6" screen is that it does not show remaining fuel based on the fuel flow transducer, but rather what the fuel senders show in the tanks. So I wanted to have good accurate instrumentation with this setup. The remaining fuel flow based on the fuel flow transducer data is available, but you have to bring up the Engine page on the MFD screen to see it. I had Terry Heim @N6758N install the senders for me since he had did it on his plane and @Marauder's plane. So I figured it would be good to have someone that just did them twice already to do mine! I will say that the CiES integration with the Garmin EIS was pretty seamless and Garmin's interface for calibrating the senders was superb. I took video of that so I will upload at a later date. One nice thing about the Garmin EIS is that every sensor and gauge is setup by the installer, so no need to send it to the OEM to setup for your aircraft. If you had different senders, you just select what they are in the EIS setup page. Original OEM resistive senders, you select that. New Digital senders, you select that, etc. Here are some photos: 4 1 Quote
Niko182 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 Whats running the AH on foreflight. Is the artificial horizon being run by stratus 2s r by something else? Quote
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