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Sam:

It's likely this DPE problem has been going on for some time and the school/flying club has avoided telling you about it for fear of losing out on your money.  Hard to believe they even call themselves a flight school with such a glaring problem.  Your ACE flight instructor has done you no favors, he has to have known about this too.

I would certainly make the arrangements to finish up over a weekend somewhere else.  Even if you have to buy an airline ticket to go to a REAL flight school in Denver or Dallas to finish up, it would be worth it after all the money you have already spent.

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2 hours ago, bonal said:

What is the going rate for the check ride?  I googled Nor CA DPE and found one at Lincoln got to use the old interweb

It was $450 in OAK for my ATP.

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mine; was $650 for the first time, then 400 each additional time. I think i said that somewhere. So i am out $1050 right now because i made him give me back my 2nd $400 check when he discontinued me. Any one else i go with will be the full amount.

Im already broke and i havent even bought a plane yet :P

 

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whoa! i paid I think $300 for my first and $0 for the second iteration. 

Now that was 8 years ago - but his point was not to make a living on being a DPE! more to make safe pilots.  Now this was also on the poor coast.....

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Can't remember all of posts, but have you considered doing your ck ride with the FAA? Depending on the FSDO scheduling might take some time. You've already spent way too much for nothing, might as well get a free ride and stop the bleeding.

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As far as i know we only have DPE here. Also the last time i called the FSDO it took a month for them to just call me back, by the time they did i already had a new medical and student license mailed to me and in my pocket. 

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Read though this thread. What a pain in the ass dude.  If you don't find anything local my DPE was Donna Webster. She's associated with the Bakersfield flying club. I think I paid $350.  

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I was under the impression that FSDOs were required to provide examiner services.  CFIs can chime in.  

I know an excellent DPE in central Virginia if you want to travel down there. 

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lol; actually I will be in Virginia Thursday night-sat morning. I have business down in Richmond. But that only gets me half way, i would still need a sr20; Im not going to do a check ride in something i am not familiar with. 

EDIT: Tentative business, i forgot that last night someone was putting up a hissy fit because they would be traveling while i would be there doing work. Just waiting for the CEO to smack him down so I can go.

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So last week i put in a request for Oran to test today. Just got a call back and a apology because i guess the email went to the wrong place in their schedule system, but we cant check ride today because he needs 24 hour notice to the FAA.

But we scheduled for next monday when i get back. I spent about 20 mins on the phone with him saying 'some' of the stuff that has happened to me, but not going into much detail. Overall he was very receptive, optimistic and loved to talk about flying... Basically the guy i have been looking for. Even for the XC stuff he said 'your coming from kpao?' 'yes' 'oh well then just use that as your XC, do one for coming here and back and we will just fly the route you chose back'. 'Uhh ok'.

After talking to him, i felt extraordinary revealed. At one point he even said 'since SAC isnt your home airport, i dont expect you to take control, since they might talk fast or use language you might not be familiar with; i will try and brief you the best i can however, but if you get stuck its ok to let me talk'.

I dont think i will need it ;) but he sounded very accommodating. 

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Do the old rules still apply?

1) Answer all questions directly and briefly.

2) Don't give more detail than requested.

3) if you go into more detail, they will ask for the next depth of detail answer.  That's the point where you have run out of detail to add.

4) be prepared to have a light conversation that doesn't go into any previous bad experiences.  Pick a subject to fill time like any really cool dog stories could work.

5) The objective is...

  - to demonstrate your flying and knowledge skills.

  - come home with the set of wings.

6) Don't get caught up in saving GA issues.

7) maintain your focus.

8) recognize open-ended questions, they lead to telling more than you know...

 

From my experience of answering questions from people that know a whole lot more than me....

 

Good luck,

-a-

 

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yea; when in the air i will keep it as brief as possible; If he starts talking i will just say we can get a burger and have a conversation once we land :)

Honestly i feel 100% ready; Even mentally going over all the maneuvers in my head, there is nothing that worries me too much. My only worry is the diversion airport since it will be the first time experiencing it and having little knowledge of it; so i will need to pull out my Airport Supplement, lookup TPA etc. .

I am hoping this is just a 1hr or less hobbs trip. No tricks,, no gotchya's. Just do this, this this this. ok done. 

Here's a question for everyone that i really haven't found the answer for. In the PST they say when in an emergency trim for 'best glide' which in the cirrus is 91knts. Clean Stall is less than 85 because thats the target speed on no flaps landing. At 91knt you give up about 670ft/m; 

The question is, if i increase the AoA and target 80knts or there abouts, then my loss in altitude should be less than 670ft because i am giving up forward motion for lift? So while i will not travel as far horizontally, i should travel less vertically. So in the initial phases of doing a restart checklist, isnt it better to have more altitude vs covering more ground? Figure out what i need to do first, then choose a destination, then once i have a destination in mind, target best glide? 

Also isnt it better to turn into the wind, as the wind should give more lift?; I know i just need to stick to what the ACS says, but its something that always bugged me.

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Look up Dave Morss. I really enjoy flying with him. He is out of SQL and travels for contract work in his  Legacy. I think he still holds his DPE. 

Good luck!!

-Matt

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1 hour ago, Samurai Husky said:

, isnt it better to have more altitude vs covering more ground?

depends on if there is a convenient location to drift down to.  Never assume the engine is going to restart, it quit for a reason and unless you are pretty sure you know what it was (ran a tank dry) I would not want to short myself on mileage to a landing surface.

1 hour ago, Samurai Husky said:

Also isnt it better to turn into the wind, as the wind should give more lift?;

If you are setting a IAS heading into the wind or with the wind is only effecting your ground speed.  You will get better distance for altitude loss going down wind.

1 hour ago, Samurai Husky said:

In the PST they say when in an emergency trim for 'best glide' which in the cirrus is 91knts

On a check ride follow the PST as closely as possible, experiment once you have your PPL.  

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SH, I flew with an instructor over the weekend mentioned a person that was getting his ppl in a cirrus, hes a Copa instructor he told me he has a newbey who bought a new bonanza G36 800+ and got his ppl in the B, he didn't seem it was a big deal as long as the instructor was on top of everything, somewhat differing view than the average response on this panel.Dan's Take,. Just get a plane not broken,a DPE not broken a day your not broken, then scan, copy your new license for us to see.

GOOD LUCK

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Ok; i guess i was trying to give priority to restart; but it sounds like i should find a place to land first, head in that direction, then on the way there do the restart. 

Yep, really hoping this guy works out.. So far i have been chewed up and spit out by DPE's and the FAA (especially with my medical); I am looking forward to maybe some good karma going forward.

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2 hours ago, Samurai Husky said:

Also isnt it better to turn into the wind, as the wind should give more lift?

OMG!! Seriously, you're kidding us. Right?

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