mike_elliott Posted April 4, 2016 Report Posted April 4, 2016 On 4/3/2016 at 11:23 PM, gsengle said: I seriously doubt that anyone would ever approve that. Would be convoluted both from a software and user interface perspective. And there is probably no standard data format for that to make various device combinations all work. Garmin certainly wouldn't allow it. They won't even take the adsb data today, which is standards based. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The lynx is currently displaying traffic and wx on an aspen ipad an gns, why not also push out a flight plan from an ipad? The hardware interface is done, just need to enable a receive feature, and enable it in th e apps. The databases on the ipad and gns would agree if current. Shouldn't raise a concern with the faa. My non certified fingers punch it in now... Quote
gsengle Posted April 4, 2016 Report Posted April 4, 2016 Because GARMIN has refused to play nice, and isn't that where you want to push the flight plan? It only works on aspen because they have a business relationship to cooperate. Besides then they wouldn't get to sell you their box. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
LANCECASPER Posted April 4, 2016 Report Posted April 4, 2016 On 4/3/2016 at 8:56 PM, AviSimpson said: Expand We need videos!! Quote
carusoam Posted April 4, 2016 Report Posted April 4, 2016 Nice getting input directly from the OEMs... Best regards, -a- Quote
NotarPilot Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Posted April 4, 2016 On 4/4/2016 at 12:23 AM, gsengle said: Because GARMIN has refused to play nice, and isn't that where you want to push the flight plan? It only works on aspen because they have a business relationship to cooperate. Besides then they wouldn't get to sell you their box. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand Great point and that's exactly why I'm steering away from Garmin products. Although they make great, albeit expensive, stuff I don't like the lack of will to cooperate with other brands which is partially when I'm going with Avidyne and the Lynx. The other reason is I believe Avidyne came out with a superior product and the concept of a drop in replacement made WAY too much sense. I still can't figure out why they didn't design the GTN 650 as a drop in for the 430. 1 Quote
PTK Posted April 4, 2016 Report Posted April 4, 2016 On 4/3/2016 at 8:58 PM, AviSimpson said: With the 10.2 software and the IFD100 (or the other app vendors) we can share data back and for. You could input flightplans on the IFD100 and it would push to the IFD 4 or 5 Series navigator and vice versa. Expand Thank you Sir for sharing your expertise. I have a dumb question. What is the benefit of using an intermediate box, i.e. iPad, to the navigator? I find it much easier to enter and manipulate flight plans directly in the navigator itself after I've copied my clearance. I have the GTN 750. Quote
NotarPilot Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Posted April 4, 2016 On 4/4/2016 at 10:46 AM, PTK said: Thank you Sir for sharing your expertise. I have a dumb question. What is the benefit of using an intermediate box, i.e. iPad, to the navigator? I find it much easier to enter and manipulate flight plans directly in the navigator itself after I've copied my clearance. I have the GTN 750. Expand I can answer this from my experience with Flight Stream 210. Using Garmin Pilot, let's say I file a flight plan from airport A to airport B, and I do this while I'm still at home. As my time of departure nears I usually get a notification on Garmin Pilot of my "proposed ATC route." This usually ends up being what my clearance is. I get in my plane, call up and get my clearance and if it matches what's in Garmin Pilot all I have to do it press one button on my iPad to have that flight plan transferred to my 430. I don't have to twist any knobs, or in your case you don't have to type in your flight plan. Life the route is a little different I can modify that on the iPad before transferring it to the box. It's a very nice feature to have. Quote
Simpson Bennett Posted April 4, 2016 Report Posted April 4, 2016 On 4/4/2016 at 10:46 AM, PTK said: Thank you Sir for sharing your expertise. I have a dumb question. What is the benefit of using an intermediate box, i.e. iPad, to the navigator? I find it much easier to enter and manipulate flight plans directly in the navigator itself after I've copied my clearance. I have the GTN 750. Expand I wouldn't view the IFD100 as just a intermediate box (iPad app). It can certainly be that for the pilot that wants something like that. What the IFD100 has the capability to be is a large screen display for cockpits that have restricted space (i.e. Can only fit an IFD440) but want the capability to have a large screen display. With the new large iPads that come out on the market you have the option to have a 12" display, or whatever iPad you want to use. I'll try to get some videos and pictures of our IFD440 paired with an IPad Pro from our Sun n Fun booth to show what I'm talking about. 1 Quote
Simpson Bennett Posted April 4, 2016 Report Posted April 4, 2016 On 4/4/2016 at 12:37 AM, LANCECASPER said: We need videos!! Expand I know! I'm working on it. 1 Quote
PTK Posted April 4, 2016 Report Posted April 4, 2016 I mainly utilize fltplan.com along with G Pilot. The proposed routing comes back in G Pilot on my iPhone. The rule has been that this routing changes substantially once I'm in the airplane copying the clearance. In fact it is an extremely rare exception for it not to change. I find it much easier to take the one minute or so that's required to enter it once in the 750. I believe the iPad is a great tool for preflight planning and as an EFB. Quote
Marauder Posted April 4, 2016 Report Posted April 4, 2016 On 4/4/2016 at 1:02 PM, PTK said: I mainly utilize fltplan.com along with G Pilot. The proposed routing comes back in G Pilot on my iPhone. The rule has been that this routing changes substantially once I'm in the airplane copying the clearance. In fact it is an extremely rare exception for it not to change. I find it much easier to take the one minute or so that's required to enter it once in the 750. I believe the iPad is a great tool for preflight planning and as an EFB. If you use the flight plan rubber band feature on GP it is really easy to modify the plan visually and push it to the GTN. You can do the same thing on the screen of the 750 but I always find it easier to do it on the iPad. As well if you do make a change on the 750, you can push it back to the iPad to keep it in sync. Original route: Route being edited: New route: 1 Quote
NotarPilot Posted April 5, 2016 Author Report Posted April 5, 2016 That's a great feature Maurader, the ability for any flight plan changes to push both ways. When I made a change on my 430 it would push to Garmin Pikot on the iPad. PTK, I'm not trying to sell you a flight stream 210 but I can say I really like it and it's features would be missed with my change to the IFDs but with the advent of the IFD 100 it doesn't appear it will be missed too long. Simpson, any word on release date for the IFD 100 app? Quote
1964-M20E Posted April 8, 2016 Report Posted April 8, 2016 Sweet can't wait to get my 540 upgraded to 10.2 of course I'm still learning what it can currently do. Quote
Simpson Bennett Posted April 12, 2016 Report Posted April 12, 2016 On 4/5/2016 at 12:27 AM, NotarPilot said: Simpson, any word on release date for the IFD 100 app? Expand Couple of months, likely around the 10.2 release time. Quote
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