What should i get?

[bonal]

The whole renting / availability thing was the reason I found a nice little 150 to train in. My airplane to use when I want for as long as I wanted. after selling even though I had to spend dollars for maintenance it would have cost at least twice what I had to invest to get in as much time as I did. I have know idea what or even if you own a car but I bet it cost over twice what I paid for my150.  J's are expensive for the same reason 172's are they fit into a much bigger groups mission requirement so that puts them at a higher demand,

[glafaille]

Samurai-

Go visit the flight school in Tracy, Livermore or Modesto.  Make a deal with them to fly to Palo Alto, pick you up, give you an hour or 2 training, drop you off back at Palo Alto and fly back.  Probably wouldn't cost any more than what you are spending now for the Cirrus, you won't have to drive too far to the airport, the CFI will get more flight time and you'll get more training.

We have to "think outside the box" to get you trained up!

[Danb]

Glafaille, another note how's David at the avionics shop in Tyler?

[glafaille]

Danb-

I have not had any dealings with him.  I can try to get a little local airport intel if you like.

[jrwilson]

3 hours ago, Samurai Husky said:

The R is because it is slightly bigger. I was able to find one at the airport where i could look inside and see how much space there was. When people started to question the TO/L numbers, i had too look deeper at that and it may force me to switch airports to Henry Reid which has a longer runway. 

 

 

Henry Reid?  Maybe Reid Hillview?  RHV?   There was a flight school run by Amelia Reid there and I think she was the daughter of the original airport founders (Bob or Cecil?)

[Samurai Husky]

2 hours ago, jrwilson said:

Henry Reid?  Maybe Reid Hillview?  RHV?   There was a flight school run by Amelia Reid there and I think she was the daughter of the original airport founders (Bob or Cecil?)

RHV; you're right. There is a Henry Reid in my book they keep using as an example;  I probably should have googled before posting if i wasn't sure; Right now my brain is filling up with an ungodly amount of stuff. 

Today we did landings, and we did them as SJC (flying with the big boys); So right now my brain is as about fried as it gets. Wake turbulence, 15-20mph winds, traffic, noise abatement. Switching from runway R to runway L, ATC, ATC, ATC, ATC, 

I have a feeling transitioning into Mooney might not be as bad as people think from a Cirrus. That thing floated for EVER. Regardless, i suck at landings and will probably continue to do so for a while. Its just shows how much time needs to be put in to be good at this stuff. But i survived

 

[Seth]

I really think you should go bang around the pattern in a 172 or PA-28, then progress to the Cirrus after you solo.  You'll be in much shape in learning at slower speeds and a better training ship how it all works until your brain internalizes it.

The Cirrus is cool.  The 172 or PA-28 is a much better early primary training aircraft.  

-Seth

[Samurai Husky]

Might not have a choice; It appears my plane is for sale 

N490CD, a 2005 Cirrus SR20 Avidyne. Currently based at PAO and rents for $193 per hour. $164K.

Im going to miss good ole charlie delta, ;_; she was my first. 

 

[Seth]

34 minutes ago, Samurai Husky said:

Might not have a choice; It appears my plane is for sale 

N490CD, a 2005 Cirrus SR20 Avidyne. Currently based at PAO and rents for $193 per hour. $164K.

Im going to miss good ole charlie delta, ;_; she was my first. 

 

It may be a while before it sells.  Still - go work the pattern in a 172 or PA-28 for and hour and go do maneuvers for an hour - you brain will pick it up faster.  Then try everything in the Cirrus after after maybe 5-6 hours in the Ceesna/Piper.

Your control of the Cirrus that point will be night and day as your body will have the correct "sense" of what is supposed to be going on - you will have internalized some of it.

Get "ahead" of the airplane.  It's easier to do so in trainers vs high performance.

-Seth

 

 

[Samurai Husky]

Yep; and I will until i get out of it; But its what i know and knowing is comfort. It's the same reason people stay in bad relationships. 

But i had already explained my problem with the Cirrus earlier; Its not flying with my left hand, its the wrist rotation on the stick.  I'm not sure if you have ever flown a Cirrus before, but its nothing like a yoke or regular stick; when you roll the plane you have to use your wrist. Apparently i have weak writs because all i do is work on a computer all day. 

I already asked my instructor if we can switch planes; I am waiting for his feed back since he is the one watching me fly. I just checked my log book and i should be out of the bulk rate now; so i've used up all my discounted hours. So now is as good a time as any to switch.

Lastly, i am sure you are being sarcastic, but there is no need for it. No one is forcing you to watch this thread. BUT, regardless, thanks for your feedback; 

I dont want anyone to think i am ignoring their advice, just sometimes it takes time to figure out how to go about things. Starting down a mountain path is easy, it's changing direction that is hard. 

 

[Danb]

S.H.  You'll want to get used to having your left hand on the yoke(stick, or whatever your using that day) and your right hand on the throttle etc, and available for use on the radios, gps etc. kinda force yourself and relax in that position, light touch. Just a friendly word.

 

 

[Samurai Husky]

yea, im getting better; A lot of it is just nerves; Everyday is something completely new; I find that because of it, i am strangling the stick which might be leading to fatigue and over compensating movements. I find when the air is smooth and im not bouncing all over the place, everything works a lot better. LOL the only problem is that we have only had about 30 mins total of not bouncing all over the place 

I also noticed in the last lesson that after 10 go around's i was making much more accurate adjustments and not over compensating as much in turbulence. We'll see how it goes; But it seemed like either me or the airplane was behaving much better, where i could actually hold an altitude and hold a heading. Over time i think i will be able to adapt. Right now flying is just too much fun, i get home and i have the equivalent to a runners high (consequently, I end up running to get rid of it ) 

[Yetti]

Just remember you are holding the plane up in the air.  If you let go of the yoke, it will fall out of the sky

[MyNameIsNobody]

5 hours ago, Samurai Husky said:

Yep; and I will until i get out of it; But its what i know and knowing is comfort. It's the same reason people stay in bad relationships. 

But i had already explained my problem with the Cirrus earlier; Its not flying with my left hand, its the wrist rotation on the stick.  I'm not sure if you have ever flown a Cirrus before, but its nothing like a yoke or regular stick; when you roll the plane you have to use your wrist. Apparently i have weak writs because all i do is work on a computer all day. 

I already asked my instructor if we can switch planes; I am waiting for his feed back since he is the one watching me fly. I just checked my log book and i should be out of the bulk rate now; so i've used up all my discounted hours. So now is as good a time as any to switch.

Lastly, i am sure you are being sarcastic, but there is no need for it. No one is forcing you to watch this thread. BUT, regardless, thanks for your feedback; 

I dont want anyone to think i am ignoring their advice, just sometimes it takes time to figure out how to go about things. Starting down a mountain path is easy, it's changing direction that is hard. 

 

Yes, you "explained it" before.  Now you have OWNED it.  It is not the yoke or stick or your lack of wrist strength.  If it is trimmed you are fine and adequate...IF you are relaxed and NOT overflying with a "death-grip".  I do that on my bike in the wind (gusty), but there I don't have several thousand feet and minutes to F-UP before I die.  Lighten up Francis..Is what I tell myself when I notice I am over gripping the throttle on my bike.  I say the same to you.  Yeah, I am going to give you $%^&.  It is what men do.  Again, lighten up Francis.  Those here are cheering for your success...Including me.

I do find you about on par with my wife for being decision-making

 

[Yetti]

If you stick out your upwind leg on the bike, it will stabilize the approach

[PTK]

Little Timmyyyyyyyy! ...where are youuuuuuuuu!! Please come baaaaaack!!

We love you and we miss you! You were so good little Timmy! 

[Hank]

Just now, PTK said:

Little Timmyyyyyyyy! ...where are youuuuuuuuu!! Please come baaaaaack!!

We love you and we miss you! You were so good little Timmy! 

Negative, Ghost Rider! The pattern is full . . .

[Samurai Husky]

" I do find you about on par with my wife for being decision-making  "

Thats what she said

 

 

[carl]

the duke vs a c 340  hmm.

A friend of mines first plane was a c340. ( which I fly ,awesome) went to american flyers in fort lauderdale and hired them to teach him to fly it and get his multi engine , then his instrument , then his commercial . that was in the 1990s, he still flys it. and makes the statement "I never had to upgrade because I bought the best plane I could find"

Get the plane you want , get the training  & experience in your plane and life is good

for me it would be an aero commander 500s , but i cant afford the single engine i have now. 

[Samurai Husky]

Well if you want to keep drooling: 

http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1416579/1981-beechcraft-b60-duke-turboprop

Now THATS a twin. IF you can afford it. 

 

[jetdriven]

15 minutes ago, carl said:

the duke vs a c 340  hmm.

A friend of mines first plane was a c340. ( which I fly ,awesome) went to american flyers in fort lauderdale and hired them to teach him to fly it and get his multi engine , then his instrument , then his commercial . that was in the 1990s, he still flys it. and makes the statement "I never had to upgrade because I bought the best plane I could find"

Get the plane you want , get the training  & experience in your plane and life is good

for me it would be an aero commander 500s , but i cant afford the single engine i have now. 

340 is a 32 GPH 190 knot plane. The Duke is a 50 GPH 190 knot plane that costs 70K a side when those troublesome Lycoming TIO541's that arent supported anymore go bad.  

[Hank]

Buy a Duke. Your A&P will love you, and his children will go to good colleges.

50 gph? Your FBO will buy you a personalized red carpet, and always roll it out for you.

A Mooney Bravo (M20-M) will do 190-200 KTAS on 18-20 gph. It's your money, it's your choice.

[carl]

9 hours ago, Hank said:

50 gph? Your FBO will buy you a personalized red carpet, and always roll it out for you.

HA hA Yes , when I pull up to the self service pumps, they come out to make sure Im not stealing anything.

[Yetti]

If we are talking 32 GPH plane, why not just get one of these.  I got to sit in it last weekend.  Pretty sure two dogs would fit in the back cockpit and look pretty cool looking out the canopy also.

 

 

Edited April 6, 2016 by Yetti

[Seth]

15 hours ago, Samurai Husky said:

yea, im getting better; A lot of it is just nerves; Everyday is something completely new; I find that because of it, i am strangling the stick which might be leading to fatigue and over compensating movements. I find when the air is smooth and im not bouncing all over the place, everything works a lot better. LOL the only problem is that we have only had about 30 mins total of not bouncing all over the place 

I also noticed in the last lesson that after 10 go around's i was making much more accurate adjustments and not over compensating as much in turbulence. We'll see how it goes; But it seemed like either me or the airplane was behaving much better, where i could actually hold an altitude and hold a heading. Over time i think i will be able to adapt. Right now flying is just too much fun, i get home and i have the equivalent to a runners high (consequently, I end up running to get rid of it ) 

I still have "runners high" when I get home from flying.  I think that's one reason my wife is so supportive - she knows how happy I am afterward.

-Seth