isaacpr7 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Posted November 2, 2014 Hey guys, I will be coming up on an annual soon and I would like to treat with corrosion x while the plane is de-paneled. I would like to buy a good sprayer to apply the treatment but they start at the mid 700s. Does anyone know of a similar sprayer that can be used to apply the treatment without breaking the bank? It would have to be a sprayer that atomizes properly into a fog so that it can reach every cranny. 1 Quote
Guest Posted November 2, 2014 Report Posted November 2, 2014 I have the genuine compressed air pump in my shop. While it does a great job it's really best to use outdoors. If I'm spraying indoors I use a simple indoor plant misting bottle worth $3.00. For most areas it works fine, for closed structures like control surfaces you need the proper sprayer with long wands. Clarence Quote
Piloto Posted November 2, 2014 Report Posted November 2, 2014 I just use WD-40. The new cans have a spray/straw nozzle that can be switched, no mess. WD-40 is very popular in the marine environment for corrosion prevention and lubrication. It was originally developed for corrosion prevention in nuclear missiles. After all you do not want a rusty missile for your enemy, it gives a bad impression. WD-40 background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40 José 1 Quote
jrwilson Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 I just use WD-40. The new cans have a spray/straw nozzle that can be switched, no mess. WD-40 is very popular in the marine environment for corrosion prevention and lubrication. It was originally developed for corrosion prevention in nuclear missiles. After all you do not want a rusty missile for your enemy, it gives a bad impression. WD-40 background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40 José I thought wd-40 was frowned upon for aviation uses...attracts particles, dirt, tends to gum-up over time. My mechanics have always been opposed to it. Try boeshield, corrosion x or LPS -1 or 2 is what they always say... 1 Quote
jrwilson Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 I just use WD-40. The new cans have a spray/straw nozzle that can be switched, no mess. WD-40 is very popular in the marine environment for corrosion prevention and lubrication. It was originally developed for corrosion prevention in nuclear missiles. After all you do not want a rusty missile for your enemy, it gives a bad impression. WD-40 background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40 José I thought wd40 was frowned upon for aviation uses, attracts dirt, gets gummed- up over time...at least that is what my mechanics always say. They always have recommended boeshield, corrosion x or lps-1or 2 Quote
fantom Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 I thought wd40 was frowned upon for aviation uses, attracts dirt, gets gummed- up over time...at least that is what my mechanics always say. They always have recommended boeshield, corrosion x or lps-1or 2 In my experience, your mechanics are correct. I believe any of the three you mention do a better job and last longer than WD-40 (days), which is an excellent cleaner. ACF-50 is my choice for long term corrosion protection. 2 Quote
N601RX Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 http://www.triconsprayers.com/materialsprayers.html 2 Quote
isaacpr7 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Posted November 13, 2014 Mike, Thank you for that link. I tried every type of search to find something like that and nothing came up. I went ahead and purchased the 5 gallon one from the link you sent me. 300 dollars sure beat the competition at 900 PS: If any mooniac flying close to my home base (KCKV) needs to use it, don't hesitate to ask. Quote
Andy95W Posted November 14, 2014 Report Posted November 14, 2014 I just bought a $20 old-school spray pot from my local hardware store. I've been using it along with my air compressor for years to fog my airplanes with Corrosion X with great results. What a great idea. If possible, please take a picture and post it here so I can try to duplicate it. 1 Quote
isaacpr7 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Posted January 13, 2015 I finally finished de paneling the aircraft and when I opened the Corrosion X HD it was a heavy goo. Apparently there are two versions of the product. The one I got is not for aviation but it is sold at Spruce. I ordered the aviation specific one and hopefully I can get an ROMA for the other one; however, since it's special order I might be stuck with a $350+ 5 gallon container. I just wanted to post this so no one else makes this expensive mistake. Quote
RobertGary1 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 I can only imagine what it would look like a few years down the road if you used wd-40. Like a dirty old sticky wet bicycle chain. Possibly flammable too. Quote
Aerodon Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 I just use WD-40. The new cans have a spray/straw nozzle that can be switched, no mess. WD-40 is very popular in the marine environment for corrosion prevention and lubrication. It was originally developed for corrosion prevention in nuclear missiles. After all you do not want a rusty missile for your enemy, it gives a bad impression. WD-40 background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40 José I have found ACF50 to be far superior to WD40. Go do a simple test yourself, use WD40 on a piece of bare steel and leave it outside to remind you how well your plane is being protected….It won't take long to convince you. Don 1 Quote
Bravoman Posted January 14, 2015 Report Posted January 14, 2015 I have always used corrosion x and had good results. if one were to switch from one to the other(acf-50) would it make any difference? Quote
isaacpr7 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Posted January 14, 2015 One thing that I read on the Corrosion X description that caught my attention was the fact that the treatment can last for two years or more. Quote
fantom Posted January 14, 2015 Report Posted January 14, 2015 I have always used corrosion x and had good results. if one were to switch from one to the other(acf-50) would it make any difference? Nope...just better protection. Quote
Andy95W Posted January 14, 2015 Report Posted January 14, 2015 Other than anecdotal evidence, I've never seen a definitive proof that ACF-50 is significantly better than CorrosionX or vice versa. Both have been proved to be effective. Aviation Consumer magazine did a review in March, 2012 and recommended both. They did mention that CorrosionX is MILSPEC approved. Quote
isaacpr7 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Posted January 14, 2015 Seeing is believing. Check out the youtube video in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsWLvyJyMBM Quote
ArtVandelay Posted January 14, 2015 Report Posted January 14, 2015 Seeing is believing. Check out the youtube video in action: First, salt waters conducts electricity, that's why the strange behavior when under water. Second, corrosion isn't instantaneous process, a better test would be to some cheap metal parts and leave it exposed to the air. My understanding is ACF is waxy like, so it will probably stand up to direct exposure to rain, of course interior parts are not directly exposed, Corrosion X is supposed to seep into the crevices where corrosion would be hidden, so is more liquid like. In the real world I think C-X is the best choice for joint protection, ACF probably better to protect the inside sheet metal...JMHO 1 Quote
Aerodon Posted January 14, 2015 Report Posted January 14, 2015 Incorrect, ACF50 is not waxy, it's a very fine 'oil' and seeps into everything, even all the way through lap joints. I've been using for 10 years now in my Seneca, we stopped 4 years before repainting (it prevents paint sticking), but back at it now. Once it leaks all the way through (especially if you over-do it), it can accumulate dirt around seams. I don't mind, because if it wasn't there, water would be seeping in and corroding. Dinotrol is the corrosion inhibitor that sprays on like oil and dries to a waxy finish. I use that on floatplane parts and other areas exposed to water. Looks a bit ugly, but gets the job done. Don Quote
Aerodon Posted January 14, 2015 Report Posted January 14, 2015 I have a full set of ACF spray equipment in Vancouver, BC if anyone local wants to apply ACF50. The nozzles are designed to atomize the liquid properly, and the long ones allow you to get all the way in to a control surface, wing etc. Most of them spray 45-90 degrees to the side, so for example if your access to an elevator is at the rear spar, insert the lance all the way in, point the nozzle forward, get ready, press the lever on full and withdraw at a fairly brisk pace. Don't over do it. I'm not saying 'homemade' systems won't work, but the factory system sure gives lots of access options, and sprays very fine drops. It fogs the interior and the drops drift around like smoke. Don Quote
Tommy Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 The only issue I have found with C-X is that it looks very much like Avgas! So only spray it after your A&P done the inspection to avoid confusion! Quote
isaacpr7 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Posted January 20, 2015 http://www.triconsprayers.com/materialsprayers.htmlMike, I finally got around to spraying the entire aircraft today during its on-going annual inspection and I have to say that the sprayer you recommended is fenomenal. I filled the 5 gallon tank with about 2 1/2 gallons and I still had fluid left when I was done spraying. The nozzle and pressure combination atomizes the fluid extremely well. When I began spraying I had all the lower wing panels removed and I had to stop and reposition all panels until they were almost closed. I did this because the atomized fluid was escaping through every panel while I tried to spray the first one. Quote
Andy95W Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 Are you based at Fort Campbell? I learned to fly at Outlaw Field around 1990. Do you think the smaller sprayer with wand would work for about $200 less? Quote
Raptor05121 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 How much Corrosion X would it take to fog a small plane? Quote
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