New software for JPI 730/830

[Marauder]

I hope this works for you Oscar. Sorry for the headache.

[Mooney65E]

What a pain! !!! I love my edm 830, but I'm not a big fan of the jpi manuals. Re programming any parameters is not easily done. Two buttons (tap & step?) either pressed or held in random sequences control 5678 different functions. Adding fuel when not topping off tanks can be somewhat problematic if you don't practice it routinely. If you don't have your manual handy and haven't attempted this task lately...forget it. Oh, I forgot to mention, what ever you do, do NOT confuse one of those two little buttons for the other or you have already changed several other function parameters which you'll discover later in flight.

[Oscar Avalle]

What a pain! !!! I love my edm 830, but I'm not a big fan of the jpi manuals. Re programming any parameters is not easily done. Two buttons (tap & step?) either pressed or held in random sequences control 5678 different functions. Adding fuel when not topping off tanks can be somewhat problematic if you don't practice it routinely. If you don't have your manual handy and haven't attempted this task lately...forget it. Oh, I forgot to mention, what ever you do, do NOT confuse one of those two little buttons for the other or you have already changed several other function parameters which you'll discover later in flight.

I know! It is a pain. I also struggle each time I have to add fuel to the tanks... and most of the times I do it wrong. But at least the unit works and as you said I love the unit.

[ToddDPT]

I know! It is a pain. I also struggle each time I have to add fuel to the tanks... and most of the times I do it wrong. But at least the unit works and as you said I love the unit.

 

 

 Adding fuel when not topping off tanks can be somewhat problematic if you don't practice it routinely. If you don't have your manual handy and haven't attempted this task lately...forget it. 

 

+1 on this as well.  In fact, going on a flight tomorrow that I'm not filling to the tabs (which I have a preset for) or topping off so I am going to review the manual today to refresh my memory.

[Bob - S50]

When in doubt, and adding fuel, read the screen.  There will be little labels on the screen next to each button.  One button is labeled Exit and the other Change.  Don't want to exit?  Push the button labeled Change.  New labels say something like fill main Yes or Change.  Don't want to fill the mains?  Push Change again.  New labels say something like fill aux Yes or Change.  Don't want to fill the aux?  Push the Change button again.  Want to add fuel?  If you push change again it will take you back to the start, that is, Change/Exit, so push the other one.  If you push change again by mistake it will just cycle through the same options again.

 

Once you have selected Add Fuel, hold down the LF button to add fuel, and tap the LF button to back up if you overshoot.  By the way, you cannot defuel, that is get to a negative value for fuel added.  The lowest it will go is zerol

 

What I do is measure the fuel in the wings with our fuel stick during my walk around.  When I turn on the avionics I wait until the 730 shows fuel remaining.  I do a little quick math and take the actual fuel on board minus the 730 fuel remaining to determine how much fuel I need to say I added.  I then add that amount and I'm good to go.

 

Bob

[Marauder]

When in doubt, and adding fuel, read the screen. There will be little labels on the screen next to each button. One button is labeled Exit and the other Change. Don't want to exit? Push the button labeled Change. New labels say something like fill main Yes or Change. Don't want to fill the mains? Push Change again. New labels say something like fill aux Yes or Change. Don't want to fill the aux? Push the Change button again. Want to add fuel? If you push change again it will take you back to the start, that is, Change/Exit, so push the other one. If you push change again by mistake it will just cycle through the same options again.

Once you have selected Add Fuel, hold down the LF button to add fuel, and tap the LF button to back up if you overshoot. By the way, you cannot defuel, that is get to a negative value for fuel added. The lowest it will go is zerol

What I do is measure the fuel in the wings with our fuel stick during my walk around. When I turn on the avionics I wait until the 730 shows fuel remaining. I do a little quick math and take the actual fuel on board minus the 730 fuel remaining to determine how much fuel I need to say I added. I then add that amount and I'm good to go.

Bob

Darn it Bob! Don't you know we is Americans!? We don't read no stinky manuals, nor screens!

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[mike_elliott]

When in doubt, and adding fuel, read the screen.  There will be little labels on the screen next to each button.  One button is labeled Exit and the other Change.  Don't want to exit?  Push the button labeled Change.  New labels say something like fill main Yes or Change.  Don't want to fill the mains?  Push Change again.  New labels say something like fill aux Yes or Change.  Don't want to fill the aux?  Push the Change button again.  Want to add fuel?  If you push change again it will take you back to the start, that is, Change/Exit, so push the other one.  If you push change again by mistake it will just cycle through the same options again.

 

Once you have selected Add Fuel, hold down the LF button to add fuel, and tap the LF button to back up if you overshoot.  By the way, you cannot defuel, that is get to a negative value for fuel added.  The lowest it will go is zerol

 

What I do is measure the fuel in the wings with our fuel stick during my walk around.  When I turn on the avionics I wait until the 730 shows fuel remaining.  I do a little quick math and take the actual fuel on board minus the 730 fuel remaining to determine how much fuel I need to say I added.  I then add that amount and I'm good to go.

 

Bob

 

Yea, you guys with 730's get "cheater" labels. Makes it easy. Real pilots can add incremental fuel to a JPI 700 without reading the manual..non of this mamby pamby "change" or "exit" help...

[Hank]

Oh, BTW -- I'm jealous of your 87 degree temps! It's still cold here! Sent using Tapatalk

 

I'm jealous of his redline of 42" MP!! I've never seen my C above 28" . . . Oscar must fly a Super Ranger!

 

I'm also curious--how do you guys fit this into your panels? Mine is pretty full already. Sorry for the bad angle . . .

[Bob - S50]

Darn it Bob! Don't you know we is Americans!? We don't read no stinky manuals, nor screens!

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Sorry,  what was I thinking ??

 

Bob

[Marauder]

I'm jealous of his redline of 42" MP!! I've never seen my C above 28" . . . Oscar must fly a Super Ranger!

I'm also curious--how do you guys fit this into your panels? Mine is pretty full already. Sorry for the bad angle . . .

It looks like whomever set up his JPI left some of the defaults settings in there. Since the unit is not primary, you can set them to whatever you want. Mine are all set for the POH values.

As for space in your panel, yep you got a problem. I would start with a single Aspen PFD and eliminate your VSI and one of your Nav heads. That will give you plenty of room. See how it easy it was to spend your money?

BTW -- what is on your gear lever? Looks like some sort of guard.

[Oscar Avalle]

It looks like whomever set up his JPI left some of the defaults settings in there. Since the unit is not primary, you can set them to whatever you want. Mine are all set for the POH values.

As for space in your panel, yep you got a problem. I would start with a single Aspen PFD and eliminate your VSI and one of your Nav heads. That will give you plenty of room. See how it easy it was to spend your money?

BTW -- what is on your gear lever? Looks like some sort of guard.

Maurader

And I thought that I had gotten that secret Area 51 STC that had transformed my M20c, I just had to figure out between Garmin, JPI and ASPEn how to make it work!

Seriously, yeah I had not noticed, thanks, need better glasses... bTW what is the value?

Oscar

[Hank]

BTW -- what is on your gear lever? Looks like some sort of guard.

 

That's how she was when I bought her, 4-5 years post-gear up. They aren't all like that? Maybe that's the part that forces the 'pull out' before lifting/dropping.

 

Oscar, MP is generally a couple of inches below atmospheric pressure. The altimeter is set to atmospheric pressure; even on the coast I rarely set it above 30.50"; if you have a turbo-charged engine, it will go much higher, while I think turbo-normalizing just lets you keep ~28" as you climb. Both systems have an altitude at which MP will begin to fall, as they can only supply a finite amount of extra air.

[Marauder]

Maurader And I thought that I had gotten that secret Area 51 STC that had transformed my M20c, I just had to figure out between Garmin, JPI and ASPEn how to make it work! Seriously, yeah I had not noticed, thanks, need better glasses... bTW what is the value? Oscar

I just looked at my picture and it is set for 32". I would look at the markings on the original MP and set it to that if you don't find it in the POH.

[Marauder]

That's how she was when I bought her, 4-5 years post-gear up. They aren't all like that? Maybe that's the part that forces the 'pull out' before lifting/dropping.

That is the first one I have seen like that.

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[Oscar Avalle]

I just looked at my picture and it is set for 32". I would look at the markings on the original MP and set it to that if you don't find it in the POH.

 

I could not find it on the POH but 32" sounds good.

[aaronk25]

Just upgraded my software...I like it nice having more information on the screen....the colors are a nice change too...

[Cruiser]

what changed?

 

Can someone post a summary?

[Oscar Avalle]

what changed?

Can someone post a summary?

Mainly the colors of the cht bars and the number of parameters that you can display.

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[Oscar Avalle]

Just to close the loop: I contacted JPI they facilitate version 3.35 (it is on their www), downgraded the unit and everything works fine.