skykrawler Posted Friday at 12:41 PM Report Posted Friday at 12:41 PM I currently operate under basic med. My class II med recently expired. The form for Basic Med is essentially identical to the form for a FAA medical. In either case, what I would like to know is why on God's Earth is #9 (Anus - not including digital examination) required for a medical examination?
midlifeflyer Posted Friday at 01:01 PM Report Posted Friday at 01:01 PM 14 minutes ago, skykrawler said: what I would like to know is why on God's Earth is #9 (Anus - not including digital examination) required for a medical examination? It's identical to the requirement for your old Class II medical. It's a check for the possibility of other diseases such as colorectal cancer and can be answered based on medical history alone. I knew that my PCP would question it so I brought her the discussion from the AME Guide. I tell people all the time: your PCP understand medicine; it's your job to educate them on the FAA.
midlifeflyer Posted Friday at 01:05 PM Report Posted Friday at 01:05 PM This has got to be the number 1 question I have seen since BasicMed started. Perhaps says something about where our heads are at 2
skykrawler Posted Friday at 03:10 PM Author Report Posted Friday at 03:10 PM So the suggestion is "other diseases such as colorectal cancer" would only have been detected by the AME and not regular health care? Also, it would have to be presented externally since "excluding a digital exam." My understanding is the finger wave is about prostate not colorectal cancer. Likewise for body marks, scars and tattoos. Apparently this is strictly for body identification purposes. With DNA being available seems of little value. I also doubt that for most GA accidents people don't reach out to the FAA Aeromedical for body identification information.
dkkim73 Posted Friday at 07:49 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:49 PM Well, you see, a lot of us pilots are... ah, well... let's just say it's important that we get examined. More seriously, though, in additonal to colorectal cancer and prostate cancer (or severe hypertrophy), hemorrhoids can also be a relevant finding from an occupational medicine standpoint (lotta sitting in this hobby). But, from having recently looked at this again from the patient side, I believe they can simply decide that history, symptoms, and demographics don't suggest any problem and defer the examination. Didn't used to always be the case. And often isn't on the military side. But, no, a class II/III doesn't always need to get what an older grizzled doc once described to me as "your yearly greeting from the Naval Chief of Staff".
GeeBee Posted Friday at 09:16 PM Report Posted Friday at 09:16 PM My Basic Med doc asked to see my anus, so I bent over spread my butt cheeks and said, "See! No contraband, no shivs!" 1
dkkim73 Posted Friday at 09:37 PM Report Posted Friday at 09:37 PM 21 minutes ago, GeeBee said: My Basic Med doc asked to see my anus, so I bent over spread my butt cheeks and said, "See! No contraband, no shivs!" Let's hope it doesn't evolve to ramp checks. 2
Hank Posted Friday at 10:27 PM Report Posted Friday at 10:27 PM 1 hour ago, GeeBee said: My Basic Med doc asked to see my anus, so I bent over spread my butt cheeks and said, "See! No contraband, no shivs!" I've been twice, haven't been asked to drop trou. But my former urgent care place has turned into family medicine (found out when I got sick and popped in), so need a new place. Will talk to my new doc, sadly not nearly as close to the house . . .
Air pirate Posted Friday at 11:06 PM Report Posted Friday at 11:06 PM Well The Village People are popular again
Pinecone Posted Monday at 03:05 PM Report Posted Monday at 03:05 PM Some of you are assuming that everyone sees a doctor every year or so. Many people do not. I get a full physical every year (and yes it includes this). Every other year, I have my doc fill out the BasicMed form.
DCarlton Posted Monday at 04:00 PM Report Posted Monday at 04:00 PM 53 minutes ago, Pinecone said: Some of you are assuming that everyone sees a doctor every year or so. Many people do not. I get a full physical every year (and yes it includes this). Every other year, I have my doc fill out the BasicMed form. Which leads to another question. How do you know when it's time to have the doc fill out the form again. It is self managed or do you get a reminder from the FAA? I was thinking about every other year too instead of waiting until the deadline. I usually get an annual physical.
Bolter Posted Monday at 04:41 PM Report Posted Monday at 04:41 PM 40 minutes ago, DCarlton said: Which leads to another question. How do you know when it's time to have the doc fill out the form again. It is self managed or do you get a reminder from the FAA? I was thinking about every other year too instead of waiting until the deadline. I usually get an annual physical. AOPA's Basicmed website is helpful for this. They will send reminders (if you request it) as well as give you the required training and forms. 1
midlifeflyer Posted Monday at 05:27 PM Report Posted Monday at 05:27 PM 2 hours ago, Pinecone said: I get a full physical every year (and yes it includes this). Every other year, I have my doc fill out the BasicMed form. I do the same as you.
midlifeflyer Posted Monday at 05:29 PM Report Posted Monday at 05:29 PM 1 hour ago, DCarlton said: Which leads to another question. How do you know when it's time to have the doc fill out the form again. The exact same way I know it's time for a flight review and other time-limited requirements. 1
Hank Posted Monday at 06:32 PM Report Posted Monday at 06:32 PM 3 hours ago, Pinecone said: I get a full physical every year (and yes it includes this). Every other year, I have my doc fill out the BasicMed form. I get a physical most years, and take the BasicMed online course every other year. Then I go to the local urgent care for the exam every four years. Why do you get the BasicMed physical more often than required? 1
DCarlton Posted Monday at 10:57 PM Report Posted Monday at 10:57 PM 5 hours ago, midlifeflyer said: The exact same way I know it's time for a flight review and other time-limited requirements. Good point but I was more curious if the FAA was tracking basic med expirations and sending reminders. Four years is a generously long time. New processes often yield new processes.
hammdo Posted Monday at 11:02 PM Report Posted Monday at 11:02 PM I’ve not received any reminders. I just track that in ForeFlight… -Don 1
Hank Posted Tuesday at 12:30 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 12:30 AM 1 hour ago, DCarlton said: Good point but I was more curious if the FAA was tracking basic med expirations and sending reminders. Four years is a generously long time. New processes often yield new processes. Do they (FAA) send reminders for your Class 3? AOPA is very good at sending reminders--take the class every two years, visit your doctor every four years, don't send any paperwork to anyone, just keep it at home where you can find it if ever asked for it (you know, just like the airplanes logbook). 1
DCarlton Posted Tuesday at 12:56 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 12:56 AM 24 minutes ago, Hank said: Do they (FAA) send reminders for your Class 3? AOPA is very good at sending reminders--take the class every two years, visit your doctor every four years, don't send any paperwork to anyone, just keep it at home where you can find it if ever asked for it (you know, just like the airplanes logbook). No but the local flight surgeons do. I've gotten cards in the mail from doctors I've never seen regarding a physical that's soon to be due. Gotta wonder what data base they tap.
Jackk Posted Tuesday at 02:30 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 02:30 AM No I also don’t have my addy posted on the FAA site so I don’t get spammed by AMEs My electronic log (and boss) track this
Fly Boomer Posted Tuesday at 11:59 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 11:59 AM 11 hours ago, DCarlton said: Gotta wonder what data base they tap. FAA Airmen database.
midlifeflyer Posted Tuesday at 12:18 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 12:18 PM 13 hours ago, DCarlton said: Good point but I was more curious if the FAA was tracking basic med expirations and sending reminders. Four years is a generously long time. New processes often yield new processes. Nope. And I don't expect them to. Not even sure I want them to. 1
Pinecone Posted Tuesday at 01:14 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 01:14 PM 21 hours ago, DCarlton said: Which leads to another question. How do you know when it's time to have the doc fill out the form again. It is self managed or do you get a reminder from the FAA? I was thinking about every other year too instead of waiting until the deadline. I usually get an annual physical. It is self managed. Like your Flight Review. For the course, the date of the last time you took that is in your FAA pilot data. Look yourself up in the Airman Database and it shows there.
midlifeflyer Posted Tuesday at 01:16 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 01:16 PM 18 hours ago, Hank said: I get a physical most years, and take the BasicMed online course every other year. Then I go to the local urgent care for the exam every four years. Why do you get the BasicMed physical more often than required? In my case, it's coordination and keeping ahead of the game. I have to do the online course every two years anyway. Since I'm getting my annual checkup anyway, why not sync the two? I don't see a downside. And if I need to change docs, I have the extra buffer. 1
Pinecone Posted Tuesday at 01:17 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 01:17 PM 12 hours ago, Hank said: just keep it at home where you can find it if ever asked for it (you know, just like the airplanes logbook). IIRC the BasicMed provisions state that the paperwork be kept in your PILOT logbook. I leave my paper logbook at home. I have electronic on my phone if needed. 1
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