Acclaim useful load

[mike_elliott]

15 minutes ago, philiplane said:

Replacing cylinders for burned exhaust valves/loose guides, Kelly turbochargers that leak between the hot/cold sections, starter adapters that slip, push rod seals, rocker cover gaskets, tappets, etc etc... All the Continental weak points compared to the Lycoming engine

So, its a continental engine thing your saying...Good thing Cirrus figured out how to avoid it

 

 

[Bentonck]

On 4/27/2021 at 1:31 PM, aggiepilot04 said:

Not sure if this is helpful or not, but mine is 949.  Type S, no TKS, no A/C.

Mine is 975lbs, no A/C, no TKS, 2007 Model (pre-S)

I have been amazed at how much the Acclaim's have gone up in price.  I paid $350k for mine a little over a year ago, put 200 hours on it, and could make $50k on a quick sell at this point.

 

[pkofman]

So, per your earlier comment in the thread,  if you had a choice ( academic and theoretical question coming! ) and the price for an ultra was just within striking distance of an acclaim or acclaim s , which would you buy or prefer to purchase  @LANCECASPER  

[LANCECASPER]

23 hours ago, pkofman said:

So, per your earlier comment in the thread,  if you had a choice ( academic and theoretical question coming! ) and the price for an ultra was just within striking distance of an acclaim or acclaim s , which would you buy or prefer to purchase  @LANCECASPER  

If the price is not much different, that's a no-brainer, an Ultra for sure from a value standpoint. The two doors will always add value and the updated G1000 Nxi will also. There are also a lot of ergonomic and safety advantages in the interior and on the panel. One example would be having the backup in the center of the panel rather than way over to the right. If the prices were close just the lower time airframe of the Ultra would make up the difference in value easily.

[carusoam]

14 hours ago, pkofman said:

So, per your earlier comment in the thread,  if you had a choice ( academic and theoretical question coming! ) and the price for an ultra was just within striking distance of an acclaim or acclaim s , which would you buy or prefer to purchase  @LANCECASPER  

PK,

Last I looked...

There is an O ready to go, nearly new, at the factory...

Sitting in it... would help the decision process...

Very similar to your Bravo, only many years newer...  

A digital decade newer, with a pilot side door...

Selling the Bravo in this market would be brilliant!

PP thoughts only, not a sales guy.

Best regards,

-a-

[Schllc]

I’ve owned an ultra acclaim, two other single door acclaims and two regular ovations. 
I personally, would not pay the delta that exists between an ultra and a one door Mooney again.
The ultras have some issues that are probably not huge in the grand scheme of things but we’re still very frustrating and expensive. 
They were also heavier, and the second door is overrated, but the larger door is nice. 
The panel layout is much better as are some of the switch locations, and the fit and finish of the ultra’s is truly beautiful.  
The NXI was a great upgrade but not 200k worth.  

I went from a two door back to one and don’t even notice it.  One less door to leak and make noise.  
 

I don’t know that I would suggest avoiding an ultra.  It’s just that after owning one, I believe Mooney should have spent the money and effort to make one door larger and increase the useful load instead of all that effort and money for a heavier plane and two doors.  But what do I know...
 

[pkofman]

8 hours ago, carusoam said:

PK,

Last I looked...

There is an O ready to go, nearly new, at the factory...

Sitting in it... would help the decision process...

Very similar to your Bravo, only many years newer...  

A digital decade newer, with a pilot side door...

Selling the Bravo in this market would be brilliant!

PP thoughts only, not a sales guy.

Best regards,

-a-

Thank you  and im sure it beautiful but I don't think for me that I would buy a non turbocharged plane. I've owned allot of planes and I really like the turbocharging on the bravo. and yes a new plane would be awesome but probably  in the long list of things that I might really want, but that I  don't  really need! 

[pkofman]

2 hours ago, Schllc said:

I’ve owned an ultra acclaim, two other single door acclaims and two regular ovations. 
I personally, would not pay the delta that exists between an ultra and a one door Mooney again.
The ultras have some issues that are probably not huge in the grand scheme of things but we’re still very frustrating and expensive. 
They were also heavier, and the second door is overrated, but the larger door is nice. 
The panel layout is much better as are some of the switch locations, and the fit and finish of the ultra’s is truly beautiful.  
The NXI was a great upgrade but not 200k worth.  

I went from a two door back to one and don’t even notice it.  One less door to leak and make noise.  
 

I don’t know that I would suggest avoiding an ultra.  It’s just that after owning one, I believe Mooney should have spent the money and effort to make one door larger and increase the useful load instead of all that effort and money for a heavier plane and two doors.  But what do I know...
 

Thats first hand great info , thank you. Ill keep searching!   Pete

[MIm20c]

10 hours ago, pkofman said:

Thats first hand great info , thank you. Ill keep searching!   Pete

This is one beautiful Acclaim…

 

[pkofman]

On 4/28/2021 at 12:30 PM, aggiepilot04 said:

For those familiar, does FIKI really add 109 lbs?  Or in practice, do you not fill it full of fluid...so like 75-ish lbs?

 

2 hours ago, MIm20c said:

This is one beautiful Acclaim…

You right it is …. What is the useful??

 

[Schllc]

12 minutes ago, pkofman said:

 

868#

[exM20K]

3 hours ago, MIm20c said:

This is one beautiful Acclaim…

 

I like the white landing gear.  I haven't noticed one like that before.  My black gear just disappears.

 

-dan

[Niko182]

16 hours ago, exM20K said:

I like the white landing gear.  I haven't noticed one like that before.  My black gear just disappears.

 

-dan

I have a white landing gear. Its very easy to see all the dirt on it. I'd probably take black to be honest.

[ArtVandelay]

I have a white landing gear. Its very easy to see all the dirt on it. I'd probably take black to be honest.

It’s also easy to see oil leaks, I guess you can consider that a pro or a con.

[Hank]

3 hours ago, ArtVandelay said:

It’s also easy to see oil leaks, I guess you can consider that a pro or a con.

I've never seen oil leak from my white gear legs, maybe because I've never put oil into them.  

On the other hand, cleaning them after visiting a freshly mowed grass strip and leaving at dusk after the bugs came out was less than no fun!!