NGT-9000 ADSB Transponder - yea or nay

[gsengle]

Gps track is different from the direction your nose is pointed which is helpful to paint a picture of traffic relative to your heading/nose rather than ground track. This is in many of our cases input through something like a stormscope that also has the same need to the 530 which then uses it to orient strikes on the screen. Or traffic.

[Tony Armour]

I'm lost. Are you saying that you have traffic on the stormscope too ? None of that made sense to me. Earlier you said the 530 got heading info from your storm scope..... Just doesn't make sense. Why would a 530 need heading info from anything. 

What stormscope do you have ?

How is the sight picture to the right stack ? I assume there is just no reasonable way to get it in the center stack. Yours looks the same as mine.

EDIT: I just looked at your pictures and don't see a stormscope ? Maybe it displays on the 530.

[Marauder]

2 minutes ago, Tony Armour said:

I'm lost. Are you saying that you have traffic on the stormscope too ? None of that made sense to me. Earlier you said the 530 got heading info from your storm scope..... Just doesn't make sense. Why would a 530 need heading info from anything. 

What stormscope do you have ?

How is the sight picture to the right stack ? I assume there is just no reasonable way to get it in the center stack. Yours looks the same as mine.

I have a WX-500 in my plane and will get an error on the GTN650 indicating something to do with the heading. It goes away when the avionics are all up and running. I am curious for more details as well. I have heading synchronization on my Aspen MFD when displaying the StormScope and also heading synchronization for the StormScope display on the GTN page. I suspect that he may be referring to a flux magnetic heading that is ported over to those StormScopes that can use heading information. In my case, the Aspen. His point is that heading won't necessarily match ground track. At least that is the way I am reading it.

 

[gsengle]

To correctly display traffic or storm scope info relative to your nose instead of gps track, the stormscope install includes an rs232 heading output. This is one of the inputs to the 530 in order to render traffic and strikes. This corrects for crabbing into the wind.

[Tony Armour]

So your stormscope is displaying on the 530 ?

Your killing me here. I asked what kind of stormscope you have.

Please point the stormscope out in your pictures.

My wx1000 gets stabilized course info from the KLN90 GPS, that is the navaid option. It also has the heading stabilization option and that info comes from th HSI. I'm thinking about ditching the KLN and that's why your comment peaked my interest.

If you have something other than a WX1000 then any issue you have may not pertain to mine......that's all I'm trying to figure out

:-)

 

[gsengle]

yes the stormscope only displays on the 530 I'm unsure of model stormscope.

[donkaye]

59 minutes ago, gsengle said:

yes the stormscope only displays on the 530 I'm unsure of model stormscope.

I may be wrong, but the only Stormscope that doesn't have its own display tube is the remote WX 500 Stormscope.

[Oldguy]

Don is correct; it is the WX 500 and can display on various and multiple screens in your plane at the same time if configured. My comes out on my MX20 and GNS 430W.

[Marauder]

On November 12, 2015 at 12:50:02 AM, donkaye said:

I may be wrong, but the only Stormscope that doesn't have its own display tube is the remote WX 500 Stormscope.

 

On November 12, 2015 at 3:50:12 PM, Oldguy said:

Don is correct; it is the WX 500 and can display on various and multiple screens in your plane at the same time if configured. My comes out on my MX20 and GNS 430W.

I have the WX-500 and it is headless. I display the output on the Aspens and also the GTN.

[Marauder]

For those curious what the WX-500 looks like on the GTN 650 and the Aspen MFD

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[Andy95W]

Okay, Chris, I'll say it.  Please post a picture of your whole panel.  It's probably the best M20F panel around.

 

[Marauder]

Okay, Chris, I'll say it.  Please post a picture of your whole panel.  It's probably the best M20F panel around.

 

Now stop it! You're making me blush.

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[Tony Armour]

I have one on the way, looking forward to trying it out.

[NotarPilot]

Lots of good info here. I've recently been considering the NGT-9000 for my ADS-B needs but have a few questions. 

1. I have an Avidyne TAS-600 system for traffic. Would there be any benefit to retain this system or would the 9000+ with active traffics trump that system all together?

2. I have basic XM weather. Would there be any advantage or need to retain that or can that be dumped too? I don't pay for XM so it wouldn't be a cost savings issue.

3. Will the 9000 display traffic on Garmin Pilot, WingX pro or FltPlan Go?

Thanks,

Steve

[gsengle]

1. I'm guessing the 9000 active traffic will be superior as it integrates adsb and tas traffic however, would be pricey. In my case it was economical because I could reuse sky watch antenna-I'm assuming the Avidyne uses a different antenna?

2. XM has higher res nexrad and some add'l products that adsb weather doesn't have. But not enough better that I'm willing to pay for an XM subscription - I find the adsb product adequate for my needs.

4. I believe only wingX for now... And skyradar

Greg

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[NotarPilot]

I wonder if there will be a market for my used Avidyne TAS-600 should I have it removed.

[mike_elliott]

 

 

4. I believe only wingX for now... And skyradar

Greg

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my lynx also displays on FlyQ...haven't tried foreflight yet. I think my sub expired on it anyway. I have traffic and wx displayed on the Lynx, Aspen, Garmin GNS430w and Ipad. The L3 lynx was the only single 1090 box I found that could communicate with all of them at this time.

[gsengle]

The 430/530 don't handle adsb traffic symbology though.

Foreflight much to my frustration isn't supported (by foreflight)

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[mike_elliott]

 

The 430/530 don't handle adsb traffic symbology though.

Foreflight much to my frustration isn't supported (by foreflight)

 

yea, its my 4th place to look, (actually 5th if VMC) for traffic, as the other devices do. At least for me it isn't a biggie. Too bad about foreflight, I guess they are pushing their own box

[gsengle]

I'm more wanting weather to make it to foreflight. Traffic don't care.

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[carusoam]

Welcome aboard JK,

Best regards,

-a-

[Tony Armour]

On January 12, 2016 at 5:53 PM, JKeeth said:

Weather and traffic from the Lynx NGT-9000 (and the Lynx NGT-2000/2500) will display on ForeFlight. Although ForeFlight hasn't "approved" the interface, a simple configuration change to the Lynx wifi module will allow ForeFlight to receive weather and traffic data from the 9000. ForeFlight simply thinks it is connected to a FreeFlight ADS-B device. 

What is the configuration change ? My 9000 and wifi box are going in right now. Thanks 

[Tony Armour]

Nice ! Thank you

Notice the email guys: L3 

Great to have Jim here.

[Bob - S50]

On 1/12/2016 at 2:44 PM, gsengle said:

I'm more wanting weather to make it to foreflight. Traffic don't care.

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I'm just the opposite.  I'm more interested in traffic than weather.  Then again, I'm based 5 miles from the Seattle Class B surface area.

[gsengle]

I fly in and out of NYC, but my traffic appears on my 530 and the Lynx, if I'm looking at my iPad it's already too late... That's what I mean by don't care. Foreflight is for medium to long range planning/navigation so seeing the weather picture develop for your route is important and thus I want weather integration.

Frankly not sure why I would need traffic on my iPad at all when its on two screens in the panel with aural alerts...

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