Hank Posted April 19, 2015 Report Posted April 19, 2015 Saw this post on POA: http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81477 Followed the link, "content not available." Not uncommon. Then I saw the name, and I'm worried. "Did anyone gear an oh Shi-" is alarming. -is this our Byron? -did he do something regrettable? -was it on video, posted then removed? I hope it's just someone else with a similar name. https://www.facebook.com/byron.rodgers.79/posts/10152982503274713 I'm also curious . . . . . Quote
201er Posted April 19, 2015 Report Posted April 19, 2015 Well it is our Byron. But I hope he's ok and didn't get into trouble. 2 Quote
Bob_Belville Posted April 19, 2015 Report Posted April 19, 2015 I saw the short video on FB but Byron was just sharing it. He had nothing to do with the aborted gear up. 2 Quote
Hank Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Posted April 19, 2015 Mike crushed me, then Bob saved me. "Aborted" gear up sounds like it might be better, unless it was an aborted takeoff ending gear up. As long as it wasn't his sweet Baron! Quote
Bob_Belville Posted April 19, 2015 Report Posted April 19, 2015 Mike crushed me, then Bob saved me. "Aborted" gear up sounds like it might be better, unless it was an aborted takeoff ending gear up. As long as it wasn't his sweet Baron! No, it wasn't better. The fool flying what appears to be an Aerostar, touched down with gear up, it appeared the props struck the ground but he applied power and flew away Presumable to land somewhere else, Q tip props and all! Â https://www.facebook.com/RCastle11?pnref=story Quote
Hank Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Posted April 19, 2015 What a shame! Should we be checking the news for an Aerostar down enroute somewhere? Â At least Byron is safe and unharmed. Quote
Bob_Belville Posted April 19, 2015 Report Posted April 19, 2015 No. This was a random video, undated, that had been viewed several thousand times. Byron passed it on including the comment that the guy managed to continue on and land at another airport. Were you able to find the Facebook clip? Quote
Marauder Posted April 19, 2015 Report Posted April 19, 2015 No. This was a random video, undated, that had been viewed several thousand times. Byron passed it on including the comment that the guy managed to continue on and land at another airport. Were you able to find the Facebook clip? I wasn't able to find it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
AndyFromCB Posted April 19, 2015 Report Posted April 19, 2015 Prior owner of my M20M did the same thing. Only part that was damaged was a single flap fairing, and of course the engine and the new QTip prop. So a new prop and an inspection from Mattituck. Bravo apparently flew away just fine... Quote
Hank Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Posted April 19, 2015 Holy crap! About a six second belly slide, then full power departure!! Thanks to POA for reposting the video: https://www.facebook.com/RCastle11/videos/10206548294656217/ Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted April 19, 2015 Report Posted April 19, 2015 Wow...THAT was something. Must really not like that fields mechanic. 2 Quote
Browncbr1 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Posted April 20, 2015 Yea, the damage was already done. Don't know what would possess someone to add power Quote
Mooneymite Posted April 20, 2015 Report Posted April 20, 2015 ...... Don't know what would possess someone to add power   Probably a function of confusion caused by that noisy gear horn.  2 Quote
chrisk Posted April 20, 2015 Report Posted April 20, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hDgtyIbD-MÂ Â They didn't get the props, but did the same sort of go around after a gear up. Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted April 20, 2015 Report Posted April 20, 2015 Anybody else "feel" the disappointment in the voice of the guy? "You are going to see your first crash"... Wonder if he loves to go where they only turn left?...and snowstorms? Quote
Shadrach Posted April 20, 2015 Report Posted April 20, 2015 Hank, I don't get it.  Was it your original contention that Byron "aborted" this belly landing then flew to an alternate airport, then later took the initiative to find the guy who recorded the incident (or at least the footage), requested the footage so he could then post it to his own facebook page, but then made his page unavailable so people would not see the video that he posted of himself "aborting" a gear up?  Whew!...  That totally seems legitimate. Quote
Hank Posted April 20, 2015 Author Report Posted April 20, 2015 No, Ross. I saw the link on POA, couldn't open it but noticed that Byron's name was in the address. My first thought was that he had made a gear up [shudder!], then realized he wouldn't post that on his own page. So I began to wonder what kind of gear up could involve him. Â Eventually some kind soul on POA reposted the video for us all to admire, so I copied his link here, too. Interesting landing, yes? Full belly contact, both props messed up, and he went full throttle with insane prop-banging noises and took off again . . . There is no indication of when or where this event happened, though; was it recent or years ago? in the U.S. or overseas? Â My main concern initially was for Byron, but I now know he was not involved and his plane is fine. Someone else, though, has a really big check to write! 1 Quote
FloridaMan Posted April 20, 2015 Report Posted April 20, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hDgtyIbD-M  They didn't get the props, but did the same sort of go around after a gear up.  There's all sorts of stupid in that one. It says they were students; was there an instructor on board? You've got a camera crew at the end of the runway filming the landing and nobody calls the guy up to tell him to go around? Or is it that nobody had a handheld radio to monitor traffic, even though the camera crew is on the runway. Quote
Shadrach Posted April 20, 2015 Report Posted April 20, 2015 There's all sorts of stupid in that one. It says they were students; was there an instructor on board? You've got a camera crew at the end of the runway filming the landing and nobody calls the guy up to tell him to go around? Or is it that nobody had a handheld radio to monitor traffic, even though the camera crew is on the runway.  It looks like a reality TV set up to me.  Anyone else find it odd that those guys were immediately crawling around under an aircraft with potentially damaged hydraulics with the gear "unbraced"... Quote
Shadrach Posted April 20, 2015 Report Posted April 20, 2015 Yea, the damage was already done. Don't know what would possess someone to add power  I doubt he thought it through.  Imagine combination of the site picture of the runway edge just a few thousand feet away rushing toward  you, while having no brakes nor steering at the precise moment that you realize you've screwed the pooch big time. I think the go around impulse would be strong. Quote
Guest Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 The touch and go landing without gear is not as rare as you might think. I've one in my client base, it is amazing how banged up a plane can be and still fly. Clarence Quote
Shadrach Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 The touch and go landing without gear is not as rare as you might think. I've one in my client base, it is amazing how banged up a plane can be and still fly. Clarence I'd actually bet that when it comes to a surprise belly landing, more often than not, the pilot attempts to "abort". 1 Quote
Hank Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Posted April 21, 2015 The touch and go landing without gear is not as rare as you might think. I've one in my client base, it is amazing how banged up a plane can be and still fly. Clarence It's not how banged up the plane is . . . It's how banged up the props are, and what happened inside the engines when he went full throttle and slammed the bent / broken stumps into the concrete at high power. Quote
Hank Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Posted April 21, 2015 P.S.-- is this the plane? "Needs props" and "Photos not available" http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/aircraft/Multi+Engine+Piston/1970/Aerostar/601/2076612.html (Found in the same POA thread as the video.) Quote
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