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Geoff Proficient

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Congratulations Jolie.  This is a great opportunity for the Abassadors and to put a positive perspective on GA.  I believe if we all told just one non-pilot one story about how our aircraft improved our lives or our families lives we would generate some much needed good will in the public's mind.

mooneygirl Grand Master

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Here is the third installment in the Forbes publication Wheels Up: http://blogs.forbes.com/wheelsup/2010/07/20/a-mooney-girl-is-born-part-3/#more-831

Before you ask, the fourth and final installment on this series will be published sometime next week!  I am happy to try to keep our Mooney brand in the public eye, and the way the story ends is a testament to Al and Art's design.

All the best

See you at Oshkosh!

Jolie

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Bob Proficient

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Jolie,


We enjoyed meeting both you and Mitch at Oshkosh.  Thanks for the link to the final chapter of your story.  Juliana and I have decided to make them her bedtime reading starting tonight.  She really enjoys them since you and her have met.  We just got back from a flying weekend to our summer home.  We did our first air tour of the town as we left.  Here is where we went.  http://www.vacationrentals.com/vacation-rentals/17425.html  For those that don't know, Juliana is my 7yr old daughter.


Your link has helped us keep the flying education & excitement going! 


Thanks!


Bob & Juliana

mooneygirl Grand Master

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Thank you Bob and Juliana!  What a wonderful comment, and much appreciated.  Mitch and I will be presenting at the AOPA Summit for CalPilots. Just trying to do our part for GA and Mooney!

eaglebkh Community Regular

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Jolie,


Thanks for sharing your story with us.  But I must ask, you had a chance to share GA with the public and you chose to write about your crash?

mooneygirl Grand Master

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Hi Brandon


Well, the "off airport landing" isn't the only thing I share with the flying and non-flying public about general aviation!  I suppose since it is a bit attention grabbing it has afforded some exposure. 


More than anything we hope to continue to support Mooney Airplane Company [and its wonderful products] and promote General Aviation. 


If talking about what happened to me and my family will help even one pilot to get more training, to keep their head in an emergency, to talk about "what ifs" that would be awesome.


I am not sure if you have been to the websites that Mitch and I have created:  http://www.MooneyAmbassadors.com or http://www.FriendsofOceanoAirport.com  both are committed to promoting general aviation and general aviation airports. 


In future installments of Wheels Up, I will be writing about using our Ovation for business flying into small GA airports across the country.  And as well, Mitch and I are doing more and more public speaking about promoting General Aviation and GA airports.  Come see us at the AOPA Summit in Long Beach as we are doing a presentation for CalPilots!

eaglebkh Community Regular

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Jolie,


I'll have to be 100% transparent - I've never really looked into the Mooney Ambassadors much.  Probably because I'm not much into the fly-in scene.  But either way, thanks for all the work you and Mitch do!

mooneygirl Grand Master

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Thanks Brandon. We do feel strongly that we need to promote general aviation, so that way we get more publicity than when someone flys into a building or something!

lahso Community Regular

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Jolie, I commend you and Mitch for promoting GA at every turn. Not all of us do that, and you all have taken the torch and run with it. Though I'm unable to make a lot of fly-ins, I do use my Mooney for the rescue of animals (ie Pilot-n-Paws), and help support the GA cause that way. I can't tell you how many times the rescues are so impressed with the functionality and utiity of a single-engine airplane. Let's keep spreading the word, and flying our planes!

mooneygirl Grand Master

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I think I read the article about you flying the doggie to its new home right?  That is super cool. You are right, we can all do our part.  If all of us just tell two people, or donate our time to one cause, then we can turn this toward the positive. A fellow at the fly in this weekend said "I think GA is pretty well regarded."  Personally, I don't agree. I think the general public doesn't have a clue about general aviation. It is up to us to educate and inspire.

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In reading this thread, I have to ask some questions. How is telling a story of an airplane crash promoting general aviation to the general public?  Isn't the number one fear and misperception of the general public that our small airplanes fall out of the sky for no reason?  It may get people's attention, but is it the right kind of attention? Also, how may of you would be comfortable taking off in a nearly maxed weight airplane, on a warm to hot day, on a relively short runway into rising terrain with trees at the end of the runway, with only 7 hours in a complex airplane with 3 generations of a family on board?  I'm all for promoting and increasing awarness of the benifit of general aviation, but shouldn't we be careful about the message that is being sent?


I'm also confused.  I thought that the Forbes.com articles was to promote GA to the nonflying public.  But the justification of using the story of a crash is to get other pilots to get more emergency training. If the purpose is to incent the general public an interest in general aviation, is talking about a crash the right approach in such a public forum as Forbes?  If the purpose is to encourage pilots to get additonal training and learn from someone else's experience, is Forbes the right forum for this?


Just some food for thought.

Mcstealth Grand Master

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Well, Forbes does support GA, unlike many publications (USA Today), and does a good job presenting the shiny side and the 'warty' side. In my opinion, Forbes is read by an educated person that can and does know the score. Now, if her articles were in 'NewsWeek,' all bets are off.

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"how may of you would be comfortable taking off in a nearly maxed weight airplane, on a warm to hot day, on a relively short runway into rising terrain with trees at the end of the runway, with only 7 hours in a complex airplane with 3 generations of a family on board?"


I would.  (in a Mooney)


Could I state my position more clearly?


I would be equally or more comfortable to sit in the back while Jolie does the flying.  Her pre-flight planning is complete. 


I would only attempt this with all four cylinders though.  I have had the three cylinder M20C experience during take-off.  I would not like to do that again.


I think flying is based on calculated risks.  Near gross, hot day, short runway, wind speed and direction, these are all part of the T/O calculations. 


Where I was bothered is....how do you know when a cylinder is going to drop out just after rotation? 


Without compression, there is no ignition and the fourth cylinder becomes just a drag on the other three....


Now I own a 6 cylinder engine with the expectation that the sixth cylinder will be a drag on the other five....


Now spreading the risk out as wide as possible.......


Diatribe complete. 


Let's all find a way to write a nice article, or be part of an article, that we each feel supports GA.


Go get 'em


-a-

Ned Gravel Grand Master

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Quote: carusoam

"how may of you would be comfortable taking off in a nearly maxed weight airplane, on a warm to hot day, on a relively short runway into rising terrain with trees at the end of the runway, with only 7 hours in a complex airplane with 3 generations of a family on board?"

I would.  (in a Mooney)

I would be equally or more comfortable to sit in the back while Jolie does the flying.  Her pre-flight planning is complete. 

Bob Proficient

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Kevin,


You are missing the point, this is not a story about a plane crash.  What has been told so far is just one little chapter of the history of Jolie's story of aviation and her enjoyment.  Would it be better if only the good was shown and not the bad?  Maybe only part of the story?  The media does the opposite and only shows the bad.  Should the article have started at the point of the last annual inspection?  I think the beginning is much better.


A few weeks ago I explained to my young daughter that the news reports car, bus, boat, train and plane accidents only if it ends realy bad.  I talked to her about people getting in car accidents and plane accidents and surviveing.  She seemed to be surprised.  Then we read the first chapter of Jolie's story and it was just another example of what I was trying to show her.  Don't you think the general public may see that not every plane crash ends in a horrible death of fear and fire?


I enjoyed attending one of Jolie's lectures.  The plane crash was such a small part of the content.  Maybe you should attend sometime.  Or if you think Jolie and Forbes have made a mistake, don't tell them they are wrong, just show them how to do it. Show them by example!


 


Dan Enthusiast

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The bottom line of this story is a plane crashed on take off.  You can debate and say the story is not about the crash, but the crash idea is being delivered loud and clear. The other concept being sent here is that a very carefully planned and well executed takeoff ended in said crash.  So the question is...  A story that has a plane crashing is good publicity and will help spread the word about how wonderful GA is and how its safe? I cant imagine it does. Sorry Jolie, though I liked your story, I dont think it was right for promoting GA...   Someone stated here show an example. If ever the chance comes again and an article is needed and you are looking for help, ideas, co writers.. let me know and Ill do my best to lend a hand.  


Dan

Bob Proficient

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Dan,


Thanks for showing your view in a constructive way!  You are right, the crash alone does not promote aviation.  However please remember that this is just one small piece of an entire story.  You can not skip the beginning!  I think Jolie is very open to ideas for future entries, thanks for offering to help, please send her your ideas. 


Has "Sully" promoted general aviation awareness?  He told a crash story as well.  Was that the whole story? or just a chapter in promoting aviation.


When people critique the "Wheels up" blog down the road, they will see how the crash entry has given many details that will serve as an outline for future entries and tie everything all together.  Please don't throw the book away based on just a couple pages.

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