rocker switches

[rtastad]

have 2 broken  need to source new ones

[Marauder]

have 2 broken need to source new ones

year Mooney?

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[rtastad]

1977

[Marauder]

You will need the Klixon version. Good luck finding pre-owned ones. Sensata sells them but they are pricey and they will not come with the switch cover with the correct words on them: http://www.sensata.com/klixon/circuit-breaker-aircraft-20tc.htm Sent using Tapatalk

[rtastad]

nothing wrong with the switch itself just the cover plates are broken  They should be easy enough to source.

 

Any help would be appreciated

[testwest]

Unfortunately, the Klixon/Senata rockers used in the 1977 airplanes are easy to source, (if you want black covers) but expensive. They are about $220 each, new from Mooney. Also, they do wear out and can possibly trip too early or fail to trip. You will not have much luck attempting to source them elsewhere cheaply and then will need to mark the blank covers, but it can be done. Have a look through the forum, there have been several threads on this subject.

Having said all that, which ones are you looking for? We are replacing all of ours with the ETA style and have a few white Klixon ones for sale.

[larryb]

Having said all that, which ones are you looking for? We are replacing all of ours with the ETA style and have a few white Klixon ones for sale.

Can you give us more detail on switching all breaker switches to ETA type? Cost, difficulty, etc.

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[Marauder]

nothing wrong with the switch itself just the cover plates are broken They should be easy enough to source.

Any help would be appreciated

Unfortunately they are not easy to obtain, at least not with lettering on them. The new Klixons come with a blank cover. Not sure if they will sell just the cover either.

[isaacpr7]

There was a thread posted about two months ago of someone who designed a set of rocker switches to be created using a 3D printer. The company who actually does the printing charges only a few bucks per switch. Link posted below:

 

http://mooneyspace.com/topic/11420-rocker-switch-cover-replacements-3d-print-your-own/?hl=print

[rtastad]

Klixon is the switch covers I need and the Boost pump cover is broken and the Nav cover is loose

[rtastad]

Unfortunately, the Klixon/Senata rockers used in the 1977 airplanes are easy to source, but expensive. They are about $220 each, new from Mooney. Also, they do wear out and can possibly trip too early or fail to trip. You will not have much luck attempting to source them elsewhere cheaply and then will need to mark the blank covers, but it can be done. Have a look through the forum, there have been several threads on this subject.

Having said all that, which ones are you looking for? We are replacing all of ours with the ETA style and have a few white Klixon ones for sale.

Hi My switches are Klixon and i need Boost pump and Nav covers  Do you still have for sale and what price.  Thx.

[testwest]

Hi rtastad and larryb

 

I "think' I have the Nav Lites switch ready for sale. However, I won't sell just the cover. If you look at the "Avionics/Parts for Sale" you will see that I sold a Radio Master Switch for $49, and it lasted only eight hours. I'll go get a picture of the Nav Lights switch today. Stand by on the boost pump.

 

Replacing the switches with E-T-A style is not for the faint of heart. They are $220 EACH, from Mooney. And not all of them are easy to get. I am trying to find a Radio Master, Boost Pump, Strobe Lite and LDG Lite switches in this style. LASAR tells me Mooney does not have them. For the landing light switch, it may be that I have to go to a standard E-T-A instead of the switch/breaker and wire in a regular circuit breaker instead. That is the way it was done on the latest M20Js and on (in 1996 Mooney went to the black E-T-A style switches). Trying to find a salvage 1996 or later Mooney is not easy at all to get these on the used market.

[rbridges]

Hi rtastad and larryb

 

I "think' I have the Nav Lites switch ready for sale. However, I won't sell just the cover. If you look at the "Avionics/Parts for Sale" you will see that I sold a Radio Master Switch for $49, and it lasted only eight hours. I'll go get a picture of the Nav Lights switch today. Stand by on the boost pump.

 

Replacing the switches with E-T-A style is not for the faint of heart. They are $220 EACH, from Mooney. And not all of them are easy to get. I am trying to find a Radio Master, Boost Pump, Strobe Lite and LDG Lite switches in this style. LASAR tells me Mooney does not have them. For the landing light switch, it may be that I have to go to a standard E-T-A instead of the switch/breaker and wire in a regular circuit breaker instead. That is the way it was done on the latest M20Js and on (in 1996 Mooney went to the black E-T-A style switches). Trying to find a salvage 1996 or later Mooney is not easy at all to get these on the used market.

 

$49 for a switch is not bad at all.  I don't know about klixon, but the eta covers are kept on with a very thin strip of plastic that snaps on to the switch.  I wouldn't want that removed any more than it had to be b/c that's where the one on my Nav light failed.  Luckily for me, a forum member had an extra.

[Marauder]

Hi rtastad and larryb

I "think' I have the Nav Lites switch ready for sale. However, I won't sell just the cover. If you look at the "Avionics/Parts for Sale" you will see that I sold a Radio Master Switch for $49, and it lasted only eight hours. I'll go get a picture of the Nav Lights switch today. Stand by on the boost pump.

Replacing the switches with E-T-A style is not for the faint of heart. They are $220 EACH, from Mooney. And not all of them are easy to get. I am trying to find a Radio Master, Boost Pump, Strobe Lite and LDG Lite switches in this style. LASAR tells me Mooney does not have them. For the landing light switch, it may be that I have to go to a standard E-T-A instead of the switch/breaker and wire in a regular circuit breaker instead. That is the way it was done on the latest M20Js and on (in 1996 Mooney went to the black E-T-A style switches). Trying to find a salvage 1996 or later Mooney is not easy at all to get these on the used market.

What amps are you looking for? (For the ETA style switch/breaker)

[testwest]

3 amps and 10 amps. I ordered the Shapeways rocker covers for the E-T-A style and am going to try to roll my own. Boost pump and strobe lites are 10 amps, the radio master is 3 amps. Surprisingly this rating is the same for the M20J and the early M20Rs, even though they went to 28 volts in the 80's for the mid-body airplanes.

[testwest]

and if there was a 25 amp one that would solve my problem for landing lights. Marauder are you looking for Klixons too?

[Marauder]

Marauder are you looking for Klixons too?

I've been on the Klixon hunt since the 1990s. Snared one once by chance, but they are more elusive than a winning lottery ticket.

[Marauder]

3 amps and 10 amps. I ordered the Shapeways rocker covers for the E-T-A style and am going to try to roll my own. Boost pump and strobe lites are 10 amps, the radio master is 3 amps. Surprisingly this rating is the same for the M20J and the early M20Rs, even though they went to 28 volts in the 80's for the mid-body airplanes.

I can help you with the 3 and 10, but only have a 20 left.

You would need the new covers. Let me know if you're interested in them. I ended up with them because I was hunting Klixon and ended up snagging E-T-As.

[testwest]

Marauder you are the bomb. I'll take 'em. PM me for the details.

 

Paying it forward, for rtastad, here ya go:

 

 

The Boost Pump switch is a little flaky internally (I would not use the switch body without testing it) but the cover is good. CAREFULLY pry it up from the bottom and you won't break off the little post.

 

 

For the Nav Lites switch, have a look here at the work in progress:

 

 

rtastad, you can have both the Nav Lites switch shown here in the panel, and the boost pump switch above, for $75, PLUS shipping. That is a great deal. Pay it forward to some other Mooneyspace-er. It will probably be $25 or more shipping to Canada, sorry. PM me to sort the details.

 

Marauder, look at this:

 

 

I am going to make a Shapeways black rocker (Radio Master) out of the 3 amp you sell (or trade) and sell off the 3 amp Radio Master black klixon shown here. As you can see, Mooney actually makes a perfect EFIS POWER switch/breaker for Aspen displays (7.5 amp), goes right in but you have to convert at least the radio master to E-T-A to make it look good. Having an E-T-A next to a Klixon looks a little kludgy.

 

On the other set, anything interesting except for the Nav Lite switch (unless rtastad does not want it)? I also have a like new landing lights Klixon in white, 25 amp.

 

Could you post a picture of the 20 amp? I could make that work for the landing light with a minor alteration (I have a Boom Beam installed).

[testwest]

Ok, here is my extra landing light Klixon. It is unused and in great shape, 25 amp. Anyone? I really can't give this one away (need to get some actual money, like $1**.00), but a nice trade is possible or....?

 

 

[Marauder]

20 amp one.

[SARNorm]

How does one remove a rocker switch cover without damaging it? I would like to refinish and relabel my switches.

[carusoam]

3 hours ago, SARNorm said:

How does one remove a rocker switch cover without damaging it? I would like to refinish and relabel my switches.

They are are snap on devices…

held in place by two ears…

Easy to separate when removed from the panel…

A little more challenging when they are in place…

Plenty of pics around here… or at the Sensata website…

Find our switch cap guy around here for more details about install/removal… @AH-1 Cobra Pilot

PP thoughts only, not a mechanic…

Best regards,

-a-

[SARNorm]

Thank you for the info.

[Jpravi8tor]

Did anyone ever get the data file for3d  printing? I saw where he was selling them on evilBay but was out of stock indefinitely!