IFR Question

[201er]

Guess you've never flown around NYC

[AmigOne]

Many times, I live in No. Virginia and have friends in NJ, Mass and Maine. Besides I live next to the Washington DC SFRA (Dulles, National, Baltimore and Andrews) plus Patuxtent and Philly not too far.

[PTK]

Ok, it's not a demand. It's a polite request to comply or get stuck holding for half an hour.

Where are you holding for half an hour and what are you waiting for after you've been cleared for the approach Mike?

[201er]

After I couldn't establish on the approach because they turned me inbound too close. Another time after having to go missed. They also get on when you're below 1500ft and start bugging you every 15 seconds to cancel. Keeping it till you're on the ground is barely an option unless you can't help it. They have parallel arrivals on approach to 4L/R EWR or oncoming departures from 22.

 

On initial contact the first thing they ask is if you're familiar with the cancellation procedures. If you assure them you will cancel in the air at the first opportunity, you have a better chance of being sequenced in between Newark arrivals promptly. Otherwise they'll vector you around till they can find a big opening. It's not uncommon to spend 15-30 minutes getting into Linden on the only GPS-A approach available.

 

And keeping IFR till the ground won't make you one bit safer because VFR operations persist even when the field is down to IFR minimums. I had an approach I had to go missed and yet was talking to pattern traffic on CTAF (helicopters). It's quite the approach, you should try it some time in actual. Good luck finding the airport when it dumps you 2 miles from the airport at a 70 degree angle.

 

http://skyvector.com/files/tpp/1310/pdf/06291GA.PDF

[NotarPilot]

I understand everyone wants to be safe and all but I was looking for a "by the book" LEGAL answer.

[PTK]

On initial contact the first thing they ask is if you're familiar with the cancellation procedures. If you assure them you will cancel in the air at the first opportunity, you have a better chance of being sequenced in between Newark arrivals promptly. Otherwise they'll vector you around till they can find a big opening. It's not uncommon to spend 15-30 minutes getting into Linden on the only GPS-A

Why not ask for a radar approach? Seems perfect for an SRA.

[midlifeflyer]

I understand everyone wants to be safe and all but I was looking for a "by the book" LEGAL answer.

 

Just think. You got both! Answers to your question AND a hole bunch of unsolicited advice. 

 

What could be better? 

[midlifeflyer]

And keeping IFR till the ground won't make you one bit safer because VFR operations persist even when the field is down to IFR minimums.

 

Are you sure you feel that way? Not one bit safer?

 

With IFR, when you suddenly see that VFR helicopter in your path, you can go missed and the approach airspace still protected for you. If you cancel, the next of those many airplanes you mentioned earlier has probably been cleared since you reported yo no longer needed it, so you end up un-legal, unsafe, or both. 

 

 

 I had to go missed and yet was talking to pattern traffic on CTAF (helicopters). 

 

You went missed after cancelling IFR??!!!!