Bkingnorth Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 Are there any good LED landing lights that would fit to a 66 20E that are brighter then factory? If not, what are the options for lights? Looking for a friend of mine.. Quote
NotarPilot Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 I have an M20J and used the Whelen PAR 46. I've been pretty happy with it. I'm not sure if it will fit on an M20E though but the truth is out there. Quote
1964-M20E Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 Unless it has been changed I belive all the E models use the PAR46. Quote
N601RX Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 There is also a HID option and the Stan Portal H3 autolight bulb stc. Quote
rbridges Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 Are there any good LED landing lights that would fit to a 66 20E that are brighter then factory? If not, what are the options for lights? Looking for a friend of mine.. Unless I'm mistaken, the current LED lights are not brighter. In fact, I believe they may put out a little less light. The HID is much brighter but is not a simple plug 'n play like the LED. I went with the LED b/c it will probably last forever unlike the last 2 bulbs that blew on me at night. Quote
aaronk25 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 Xevision 50w is awesome at $550.....getting the stc done is another problem, even though its been done before. Only difference between stock and that is you wire you landing light power light into the ballast and the ballast had a cord to go to bulb. Bulb same size. Way better unbelievable light! 3000hrs warranty. Quote
flyingvee201 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 I just ordered the XeVision PAR 46 HID light kit. The website has previously approved 337 samples that should work for other folks. I am copying one for a M20J that they have and will give it to my A&P IA for his review and hopefully an approval for him to send out. Xevision 50w is awesome at $550.....getting the stc done is another problem, even though its been done before. Only difference between stock and that is you wire you landing light power light into the ballast and the ballast had a cord to go to bulb. Bulb same size. Way better unbelievable light! 3000hrs warranty. Quote
N601RX Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 I just ordered the XeVision PAR 46 HID light kit. The website has previously approved 337 samples that should work for other folks. I am copying one for a M20J that they have and will give it to my A&P IA for his review and hopefully an approval for him to send out. Unfortunately they will not longer approve any landing lighting. It has to have a STC. Quote
aaronk25 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 Unfortunately they will not longer approve any landing lighting. It has to have a STC. I heard the same. This will hit the bee hives nest squarely with the stick....but if need be it could be taken off and the standard bulb put back in in a hour. Gosh the FAA is turning into a bunch of "job justifiers" that can't at the local level, make a decision. Quote
aaronk25 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 I wonder if a IA, would "notice" and then look up to see if the paper work is in the log for the non stc landing light? Quote
bumper Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 Prior to installing AeroLeds landing and taxi lights on my Husky, I did a comparison test: This is the halogen Q4509 sealed beam on the left, the AerLed 36 on the right . . . Q4509 on the left, 55 watt HID on the right . . . This is the AeroLed taxi light (wider beam than landing light) . . . I also compared my AeroLed installation to another Husky with Whelen Parthmeus LEDs at the Root Ranch Husky fly-in in Idaho (across a large dark meadow). The AeroLed totally trounced the Whelen (not surprising as AeroLeds is double the wattage). Aviat provides the option for full AeroLed LED lighting (landing, taxi, nav, and strobes) on new Huskys. LEDs have a number of advantages over other types of lighting, longevity, effeciency, fast rise and fall time (i.e. instant on and off for flashing, wig-wag - - more attention getting). HID can often be flashed too, though you typically have to turn it on steady first, let it warm up, then turn on the Pulselight (or other flasher). Incandescent bulbs have a slower rise time - - not nearly as good at being seen with peripheral vision. Hope the photos work . . . haven't tried posting them here before, 1 Quote
Greg Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 Bumper, those pictures tell it all. I put the first available LED on my '66 F model it was a whelen. I'm satisfied with the light. The old incandescent was the biggest amp load on the plane and would blow the breaker about the time I needed light the most. The LED doesn't even bump the amp needle. Quote
Marauder Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 It's a shame that the AeroLEDs in PAR46 don't yet look certified. Anyone going to Fun n Sun and stop by their booth to find out when? Quote
rbridges Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 Prior to installing AeroLeds landing and taxi lights on my Husky, I did a comparison test: This is the halogen Q4509 sealed beam on the left, the AerLed 36 on the right . . . you can tell the center of the halogen is brighter than the LED. IMO you do lose some distance brightness with the LED, but that hasn't been an issue for me. I might change my mind if a deer runs across the runway at night. Quote
Hector Posted April 5, 2013 Report Posted April 5, 2013 It's a shame that the AeroLEDs in PAR46 don't yet look certified. Anyone going to Fun n Sun and stop by their booth to find out when? I intend to stop by and ask. I' ll post when I get back Quote
bumper Posted April 6, 2013 Report Posted April 6, 2013 you can tell the center of the halogen is brighter than the LED. IMO you do lose some distance brightness with the LED, but that hasn't been an issue for me. I might change my mind if a deer runs across the runway at night. I agree, that's true, though it doesn't tell the whole story. . . My Husky has a landing light and taxi light on each wing. The original incandescent lamps were 100 watts each and the electric system is designed to operate either both landing or both taxi, but not at the same time. The new LEDs are 45 watts each, so no overload running all four together. Using 4 isolation diodes, I have them wired so that all landing and taxi lights come on when landing lights are selected (same for wig-wag). When taxi lights are selected, only the taxi lights come on - - so as not to blind other traffic during ground ops. With all four LED lamps lit, there's far more light for both distance and spread than there was with two halogen bulbs. It's doable to land with no runway lighting on a pitch black night - - I tried it to see what it would be like, though I wouldn't want to do it in unfamiliar territory. Quote
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