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Hello Billy - What are you looking for?  A lot of us love our Ovations, but wonder if we should switch.  Some long for turbos, some for pressurization, etc.  If I knew you wanted my exact airplane and were willing to pay, I might do a deal.  But if you want a different airplane...   Do you want TKS, AC, G1000, fresh paint and interior, etc. and what's your budget?  OK to be unsure, but put it out there if you want some engagement.

Best,

Ed  

  • 2 weeks later...
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Looking for an early ovation.  Don't care to much about the panel.  But would like an engine monitor.  Don't need TKS or Prop anti ice.  Budget is 175-200k.  I have found to in that range and one with new overhaul at 195K.

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14 minutes ago, billy hellcat said:

Looking for an early ovation.  Don't care to much about the panel.  But would like an engine monitor.  Don't need TKS or Prop anti ice.  Budget is 175-200k.  I have found to in that range and one with new overhaul at 195K.

Early Ovation is lower horsepower unless the 310 HP STC with the Acclaim Prop is installed.  That is a big factor in value.  I am not sure the STC is available anymore, someone else can chime in, but regardless, this should be a major factor when selecting and pricing an earlier Ovation.  

Then ask yourself if a Screaming Eagle (Eagle with the 310 HP STC) is not just as good for your purposes, especially considering you are saying that an advanced panel is not a priority for you.

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29 minutes ago, Bolter said:

Early Ovation is lower horsepower unless the 310 HP STC with the Acclaim Prop is installed.  That is a big factor in value.  I am not sure the STC is available anymore, someone else can chime in, but regardless, this should be a major factor when selecting and pricing an earlier Ovation.  

Then ask yourself if a Screaming Eagle (Eagle with the 310 HP STC) is not just as good for your purposes, especially considering you are saying that an advanced panel is not a priority for you.

The STC is still  available through Mooney Service Centers. I just did this last year. 

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Update,

 

What do you think?   1995 ovation.  2900TT,  40 SMOH,40 POH. Overhauled at reputable shop.  Annual done I February.  No options except Oxygen tank.  Paint 7, interior  7.  Only updated equipment is a 430W and  Garmin GTX345 transponder.  KC150 autopilot,  JPI700.    Price 180k.    The 280 Hp engine is fine with me.  I can't fine a Screaming Eagle for sale but that would fit my needs as well!    

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Billy if that plane  is corrosion free and you get a good pre buy jump on it it won’t last long D

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21 hours ago, billy hellcat said:

Update,

 

What do you think?   1995 ovation.  2900TT,  40 SMOH,40 POH. Overhauled at reputable shop.  Annual done I February.  No options except Oxygen tank.  Paint 7, interior  7.  Only updated equipment is a 430W and  Garmin GTX345 transponder.  KC150 autopilot,  JPI700.    Price 180k.    The 280 Hp engine is fine with me.  I can't fine a Screaming Eagle for sale but that would fit my needs as well!    

I just saw that one on trade a plane; $199,900 so it looks like the price went up! It looks like a nice airplane, I'd imagine it will sell fast.

  • 2 weeks later...
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The 310 HP conversion is a large waste of Mooney in my opinion.  You need the engine, the prop, and the STC.  It’s the largest amount of money for 30HP I have ever seen anywhere.

You get some runway and climb performance but no cruise speed increase.  If you absolutely need the short runway TO performance, then I guess you do.  My 280 HP 96’ gets off the runway and climbs just fine.  The 280 HP also has the added benefit of allowing you to takeoff, climb and cruise  from 9000-service ceiling without touching the throttle or the prop.  The Continental IO-550 is severely under-stressed at 280 HP which also makes me happy.

Now, I’m not saying that people who have it don’t like it or can’t point to some numbers showing how 30 HP increases performance a bit….but, in today’s dollars, doing the conversion is a dollar per performance loser.

If I were buying, I would pay an Avionics (Garmin GFC-500), TKS, Interior, or Paint premium before I would fork over a lot of cash for 30 HP.

I had the chance to do the conversion after I bought mine and it was a hard pass for me.

Edited by William Munney

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