DC_Brasil Posted Sunday at 10:58 PM Report Posted Sunday at 10:58 PM Hello. I have seen some installations with some more modern and better looking rocker switches. Some of my switches are old and the locking in either position is not very strong anymore. So I began thinking of changing some of them. I'm thinking of changing some to a new style like we see in some RV10s. I know those are experimental. So question is: do any of you have a suggestion of brands that have PMA replacement switches I could replace my original PN #930023 switches? A second thing would be to change the ignition key for 2 independent switches for each magneto and a starter pushbutton. The magneto switches I'm thinking of one of those toggle switches that lock in place (you have to lift and then move). Has anyone made this kind of installation? I'm guessing it would be a minor alteration and no STC might be required, right? Thoughts? Quote
47U Posted Sunday at 11:56 PM Report Posted Sunday at 11:56 PM 56 minutes ago, DC_Brasil said: A second thing would be to change the ignition key for 2 independent switches for each magneto and a starter pushbutton. The magneto switches I'm thinking of one of those toggle switches that lock in place (you have to lift and then move). @Pinecone Quote
Pinecone Posted Monday at 06:17 PM Report Posted Monday at 06:17 PM I switched to ALL toggle switches in my panel. I did replace the magneto/start switch with toggles. The mags are locking toggles. 1 Quote
DC_Brasil Posted Monday at 06:45 PM Author Report Posted Monday at 06:45 PM Thanks @Pinecone for the info. Do you have a Part Number for those locking toggles? Quote
Pinecone Posted Tuesday at 03:53 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 03:53 PM I asked my shop, and posted it to someone else asking the same question. Check the other thread that was linked. I did check, and it was not in an email, so probably just phone call. But they are common switches. Quote
PT20J Posted Tuesday at 04:49 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 04:49 PM Just be aware that most of the rocker switches are also circuit breakers powered from the aux bus which is powered from a single breaker on the circuit breaker panel. So, unless you replace them with appropriately rated circuit breaker switches, you will need to do some rewiring and install additional circuit breakers somewhere. Quote
Pinecone Posted Wednesday at 03:46 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 03:46 AM True, we put in CB toggle switches where needed. And with all the stuff, there is NO room for any additional CBs in the panel. The only thing is, the standard toggles are rounded a the tip. The CB ones are flat with the amp rating on it. Not a big deal. BTW, the locking ones are larger diameter than the non-locking ones. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted Wednesday at 06:52 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 06:52 AM I went with modern mini rocker switches, and there’s plenty of room for CBs without old legacy engine gauges. 1 Quote
Pinecone Posted Wednesday at 02:32 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 02:32 PM Do a pic of just your CB panel. I am wondering why I have so many more. But I have Alpha Eagle AoA and 750Xi (in addition to the 650Xi) at least. Quote
DC_Brasil Posted Wednesday at 02:46 PM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 02:46 PM @ArtVandelay Did you also replace the ignition key-switch for any other system (toggles or rockers)? Quote
ArtVandelay Posted Wednesday at 04:06 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 04:06 PM [mention=11849]ArtVandelay[/mention] Did you also replace the ignition key-switch for any other system (toggles or rockers)?No, the problem is the space the extra switches will take up. FYI, The long body Mooneys have a larger (higher) panel, mid and short bodys don’t. Quote
Pinecone Posted Wednesday at 05:29 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:29 PM If you just do the switches, it doesn't take up much more room than the key switch. The ElectoAire panel is HUGE. Quote
CCAS Posted Thursday at 01:30 PM Report Posted Thursday at 01:30 PM On 2/12/2025 at 12:52 AM, ArtVandelay said: I went with modern mini rocker switches @ArtVandelay Do you recall where you found your mini rocker switches or have a part number. I’m trying to see if one could work installed on the top of my yoke’s right horn. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted Thursday at 02:19 PM Report Posted Thursday at 02:19 PM [mention=11849]ArtVandelay[/mention] Do you recall where you found your mini rocker switches or have a part number. I’m trying to see if one could work installed on the top of my yoke’s right horn. C&K 16amp SPST switches available at any electronics retailer (digikey, mouser,etc). 2 Quote
theanswriz42 Posted Thursday at 11:24 PM Report Posted Thursday at 11:24 PM On 2/10/2025 at 1:17 PM, Pinecone said: I switched to ALL toggle switches in my panel. I did replace the magneto/start switch with toggles. The mags are locking toggles. Out of curiosity, what went into installing the electronic ignition in your Mooney? This is something I'd like to do on my J. Quote
Pinecone Posted Thursday at 11:57 PM Report Posted Thursday at 11:57 PM No electronic ignition. Yet. Plenty of threads on them here on MS. @jetdriven runs electronic and has installed a number of systems. I am planning on him installing one at my annual in May Quote
jetdriven Posted yesterday at 04:01 AM Report Posted yesterday at 04:01 AM We are an authorized installation specialist of Surefly. No buyers remorse yet. Lots of fans. 1 Quote
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