wpbarnar Posted Thursday at 02:26 PM Report Posted Thursday at 02:26 PM We are exploring having an Instrument Procedure developed for the airpark that I live in. Hughes Aerospace is one of the big players for developing Special Instrument Procedures for private airports, airlines, EMS services, etc.... Does anyone know of other companies that can provide a similar service? Google has not been very helpful. Bill Quote
EricJ Posted Thursday at 07:39 PM Report Posted Thursday at 07:39 PM I know somebody who does that, but I don't know who they work for. I can check. EDIT: Sent you a PM with some contact info. Quote
Paul Thomas Posted Thursday at 09:20 PM Report Posted Thursday at 09:20 PM Netjet had one developed for Ocean Reef. The approach is not public and only NetJet is allowed to fly it... it may be worth contacting either Ocean Reef or NetJet and seeing who they hired to do theirs. Quote
Ibra Posted Thursday at 11:05 PM Report Posted Thursday at 11:05 PM (edited) Is it that difficult to survey highest obstacle in say +/-1nm or +/-5nm and decend down to 500ft (or 1000ft) above it then "join" VFR pattern? I know in US one has to comply with General Echo airspace, radar MIA, airway MEA or VMC minima...if we put "ground in sight" aside, I am wondering how much "M/DH advantage" (or "dispatch rate advantage") some Part91 operators would get from say designing FAA approved procedure for let down on private air park? * For takeoff: nada (you are not designing SID, ODP, Omni?) * For landing: would you go for M/DH < 400ft (1sm vis) without proper infrastructure (HIALS+ATC)? for M/DH > 800ft well that's enough to fly VFR pattern I can see how 135/121 operators need to justify design or cost to gain approval for CAT-I LPV down to 200ft on every threshold. Again, most of their internal IFR procedures are proprietary: they are not in public AIP and not coded in Jeppesen database (aka, not available to visitors or non trained pilots). I assume FAA take different views if it's "operator approval" versus "airport approval"? Edited Thursday at 11:33 PM by Ibra Quote
bigmo Posted yesterday at 03:27 PM Report Posted yesterday at 03:27 PM Bill, I do this for a living, but in a very niche market and don't really know the commercial competitors very well. I'd start by reaching out to the FAA's AIS office as they'll definitely manage the process and should be able to provide a list of vendors with current LOAs. I wouldn't expect a response before Christmas, but they're generally easy to work with: https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/aero_data/Aeronautical_Inquiries/ This is a total WAG based on what I know goes into the process, but building a single RNAV with one minima and coding it is probably $20-25K worth of labor (assuming there's northing too odd about your location). You'll have survey costs on top of that as well ($10k ish???). It won't be cheap or fast, but it's definitely possible. If there are adequate nearby NAVAIDS and depending on your airspace above the airpark, you could probably develop some DIY solutions that offer a safe option with mins that would satisfy most pilots (assuming it's uncontrolled airspace). Don't forget you'll have a forever maintenance tail as well. Plan on several thousand dollars annually for review. Quote
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