Wingover Posted March 13, 2024 Report Posted March 13, 2024 So the door seal is old and compressed. You can see the light coming in from the top corners and hear the wind while flying. Will a new seal (done right) help with engine noise or just wind? Any feedback on the seal that is offered by ( https://www.aircraftspruce.eu/mooney-front-entry-door-seal-05-04858.htm ) and goes on the frame instead of the door? Quote
PT20J Posted March 13, 2024 Report Posted March 13, 2024 I have no experience with this product. Mooney uses Brown Aircraft T-9088 with yellow 3M super weather strip adhesive (yellow) and that's what I used. This part replaces the older seal that had a yellow foam core that tended to deteriorate over time and compress and allow the seal to flatten. I called Brown and they no longer make the older foam-filled seal and consider the T-9088 a superior replacement. The most important thing about door seals is applying them correctly. The door to frame gap is not uniform around the door perimeter. Also, the door has a hinge at the front and latches at the top and rear to hold it tightly against the frame. The bottom is not held in as tightly in place and is harder to fit properly due to the door arm recess and this is where most leaks occur especially in the corners if the seal is not carefully positioned. The best way I have found it to remove the old seal and the right seat and the door trim and get inside with a flashlight and note how the door fits and mark it with a sharpie and then you will know how to place the seal once you get the glue on it. The 3M product has a reasonable open time so you can lift and reposition the seal if necessary to get it right. 3 Quote
Wingover Posted March 13, 2024 Author Report Posted March 13, 2024 9 minutes ago, PT20J said: I have no experience with this product. Mooney uses Brown Aircraft T-9088 with yellow 3M super weather strip adhesive (yellow) and that's what I used. This part replaces the older seal that had a yellow foam core that tended to deteriorate over time and compress and allow the seal to flatten. I called Brown and they no longer make the older foam-filled seal and consider the T-9088 a superior replacement. The most important thing about door seals is applying them correctly. The door to frame gap is not uniform around the door perimeter. Also, the door has a hinge at the front and latches at the top and rear to hold it tightly against the frame. The bottom is not held in as tightly in place and is harder to fit properly due to the door arm recess and this is where most leaks occur especially in the corners if the seal is not carefully positioned. The best way I have found it to remove the old seal and the right seat and the door trim and get inside with a flashlight and note how the door fits and mark it with a sharpie and then you will know how to place the seal once you get the glue on it. The 3M product has a reasonable open time so you can lift and reposition the seal if necessary to get it right. Thanks again for your help. I read the comments on how to fit the seal and I believe I can do a proper job. I wasn’t sure which seal to buy. I’m trying to eliminate as much noise as possible but from reading other posts on the inflatable seal I wasn’t sure if it was worth it. Did you notice a big change in the noise level with the new one? Quote
PT20J Posted March 13, 2024 Report Posted March 13, 2024 33 minutes ago, Wingover said: Did you notice a big change in the noise level with the new one? It was some quieter, but not a lot. The Mooney is not a quiet airplane to begin with. Quote
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