KLRDMD Posted July 2, 2011 Report Posted July 2, 2011 With twin prices in the absolute toilet, I couldn't resist . . . Baron Quote
jetdriven Posted July 2, 2011 Report Posted July 2, 2011 as long as you can pay the gas and bills, a Baron is a total blast. Quote
M016576 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Posted July 2, 2011 dang... now you've got me looking at 58P's.... you're right, the prices are low! Up until now I'd been looking at old Mirage's, dreaming that maybe in 5-10 years I'd be able to pick one up. But an older 58P goes for 120-140k... that's over 100k less than a Mirage for the same capability... if only fuel wasn't so expensive... sigh... Quote
N33GG Posted July 2, 2011 Report Posted July 2, 2011 Congrats Ken!!! I used to have a BE58TC, and have really missed it at times. I too have been watching the twin prices go down, and have been thinking about one of the baby Barons. I flew several different models with the Colemill conversion, and they are great. Sweet flying aircraft. Quote
AlexR Posted July 2, 2011 Report Posted July 2, 2011 I once owned a B55...what a sweet flying airplane...fast and perfect control harmony. Miss it very much, except for during annual or when a conti cylinder would crump or bladder tank would bust. @576 the guy in the hangar next to mine has a 58P. A jerk in a jet banged up his windshield (rocks), it was over 20k to replace (other guys insurance)! His rear side window busted out last week. 3-5k (out of pocket) to replace and 8-10 week wait...no thanks! Quote
John Pleisse Posted July 2, 2011 Report Posted July 2, 2011 Is your very nice "F" on the block? Still? Gone? Quote
Shadrach Posted July 2, 2011 Report Posted July 2, 2011 Nice bird Ken! A good friend of mine has a B55 that I have flew right seat and enjoyed thoroughly... It found it to be a joy to fly, great control harmony if not a bit light in pitch. All around a forgiving AC except for when we pulled up to the pump... I'm curious to see if it takes..or if you're back inside of Mooney in 18months... anyone taking odds? Quote
KLRDMD Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Posted July 2, 2011 Quote: N4352H Is your very nice "F" on the block? Still? Gone? Quote
Shadrach Posted July 2, 2011 Report Posted July 2, 2011 Quote: KLRDMD Even trade for the Baron. Quote
KLRDMD Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Posted July 2, 2011 Quote: Shadrach A good friend of mine has a B55 that I have flew right seat and enjoyed thoroughly... It found it to be a joy to fly, great control harmony if not a bit light in pitch. All around a forgiving AC except for when we pulled up to the pump... I'm curious to see if it takes..or if you're back inside of Mooney in 18months... anyone taking odds? Quote
KLRDMD Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Posted July 2, 2011 Quote: M016576 dang... now you've got me looking at 58P's.... you're right, the prices are low! Up until now I'd been looking at old Mirage's, dreaming that maybe in 5-10 years I'd be able to pick one up. But an older 58P goes for 120-140k... that's over 100k less than a Mirage for the same capability... if only fuel wasn't so expensive... sigh... Quote
Kwixdraw Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 How could you resist a deal like that? Good luck with the twin. Quote
fantom Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 Congrats, Ken.....I hate you, cause now I'm looking at them ;-) Quote
KLRDMD Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Posted July 4, 2011 Quote: fantom Congrats, Ken.....I hate you, cause now I'm looking at them ;-) Quote
fantom Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 How about my favorite twin Mooney? http://www.aso.com/listings/spec/ViewAd.aspx?id=135342&listingType=true&IsInternal=True&dealerid= Quote
Parker_Woodruff Posted July 5, 2011 Report Posted July 5, 2011 I predict another Mooney within 2 years... Quote
thinwing Posted July 6, 2011 Report Posted July 6, 2011 congats Ken....There are definitely times I miss my D55 Baron...great control harmony and very fast...not as fast as the Bravo...but would climb out at 1500 ft per min and cruise at 16ooo with a 20 gal total fuel burn...and had a ton useful load....not a missprint...2000lbs...and would go into short strips I wouldnt dare put the Mooney in...still...paying for 2 of everything....good luck..kpc Quote
KLRDMD Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Posted July 6, 2011 Quote: thinwing congats Ken....There are definitely times I miss my D55 Baron...great control harmony and very fast...not as fast as the Bravo...but would climb out at 1500 ft per min and cruise at 16ooo with a 20 gal total fuel burn...and had a ton useful load....not a missprint...2000lbs...and would go into short strips I wouldnt dare put the Mooney in...still...paying for 2 of everything. Quote
aviatoreb Posted July 7, 2011 Report Posted July 7, 2011 Quote: KLRDMD I used to have a Bravo In the Bravo, at 17,500 ft I got 195 KTAS at 19.5 GPH. In the Baron at 8,500 ft I'll get 180 KTAS at 22 GPH (I can burn a LOT more gas and go a bit faster if I choose). With the Bravo, full fuel, full TKS, a weekend bag and me and I was at gross. In the Baron I have 1,778 lb useful load. Overall, I think the Baron suits me well at this point in my flying. Quote
thinwing Posted July 7, 2011 Report Posted July 7, 2011 Ken...my experience with the Big engine continentals(I dont see the air scoop on top of the cowl in the avatar picture so yours must be a "B model)that they were happiest at 25 squared...that worked out to be closer to 30 gal and hour.Mine had alky props for ice protection and that was it...it would carry more ice than the mooney wing though.Make sure your spar carrythru is free of cracks and that landing gear moter/transmission has been serviced.I did have to replace 3 or 4 jugs during the first engine run and than none on the later factory new engines i hung in 2000.Oleo struts were a constant problem as they would leak down...you want about a hand with in the main scissor.I used to take 5 and 6 seats out and put a couple 50cc mini bikes back there to get arround...great fun...goodluck with new bird..sinc kp couch Quote
Immelman Posted July 7, 2011 Report Posted July 7, 2011 Ken... you and I need to talk when it comes time for me to part ways with my bird and trade upward! Nicely done. Though I'd wager you'll own a mooney again, someday. Quote
KLRDMD Posted July 7, 2011 Author Report Posted July 7, 2011 Quote: thinwing my experience with the Big engine continentals(I dont see the air scoop on top of the cowl in the avatar picture so yours must be a "B model)that they were happiest at 25 squared...that worked out to be closer to 30 gal and hour.Mine had alky props for ice protection and that was it...it would carry more ice than the mooney wing though.Make sure your spar carrythru is free of cracks and that landing gear moter/transmission has been serviced.I did have to replace 3 or 4 jugs during the first engine run and than none on the later factory new engines i hung in 2000.Oleo struts were a constant problem as they would leak down...you want about a hand with in the main scissor.I used to take 5 and 6 seats out and put a couple 50cc mini bikes back there to get arround...great fun...goodluck with new bird..sinc kp couch Quote
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