Marauder Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 Another game changer in the iPad app wars. Draw your course using "Freehand" Advance flight planning (better enroute fuel burn calculations) Weight & Balance Checklists Web based flight planning integration Sharing of flight plans Custom screen configuration Yummy! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
aviatoreb Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 I have Garmin pilot. One thing I wish they would do is SVT as a split screen to charts or maps. 1 Quote
carusoam Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 Whoda thought it could get so goood! Let me know when they have T/O distance based on DA info to go with the WnB... We are almost there...! They are making it extra challenging to accidently do yourself in.... If big G were to include all of this on their app, I would be signing up for a GTN install before 2020.... Sarcastic, yet serious.  The technology is there, the apps have been built, the wifi connects it all together,  we are just one step away.... Best regards, -a- Quote
AaronDC8402 Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 It's too bad Garmin isn't trying harder to keep Android version as feature-packed as the iPad version. Quote
carusoam Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 Aaron, It's the economics of a premium product vs. the lower cost product... Garmin believes they are a premium product and aligns itself with the other premium product partners. Then it trickles down to the next level.  It takes a team to write software to operate on each piece of hardware.  They focus on the people that are willing to pay the extra premium first. Then there is the other challenge.  Not all hardware is the same.  The features available on an iPad are not necessarily going to be available on the other products.  Different chips do things differently or not at all... Best regards, -a-  Quote
ArtVandelay Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 And for those of us that have Js, we can just import everything, easy peasy Quote
Marauder Posted November 18, 2016 Author Report Posted November 18, 2016 And for those of us that have Js, we can just import everything, easy peasy And for those of us with Fs, we are spending hours entering data Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
ArtVandelay Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 4 hours ago, Marauder said:  And for those of us with Fs, we are spending hours entering data Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk  I wonder if there is a way to copy the J configuration and modify as necessary?  Quote
Marauder Posted November 18, 2016 Author Report Posted November 18, 2016 I wonder if there is a way to copy the J configuration and modify as necessary?  There is but the J stuff is pretty basic. Doesn't have things on the checklists like "Feeding Trough".Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote
Bunti Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 I just took the preloaded M20J Weight and Balance from the App. The envelope is the same and even the stations of seats, fuel ...for my M20F. But you can modify everything for your plane Quote
thinwing Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 No long bodies,surprising since Garmin owns one Quote
Aviator Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 W&B was an easy load but it would sure be nice if there was an Ovation checklist preloaded and ready to be modified as necessary. Jim F Quote
ArtVandelay Posted November 19, 2016 Report Posted November 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Aviator said: W&B was an easy load but it would sure be nice if there was an Ovation checklist preloaded and ready to be modified as necessary. Jim F Looks like they allow saving your custom plane type for others to use, so if you can wait for one of your brethren, you can ride of their coattails. Quote
Andy95W Posted November 19, 2016 Report Posted November 19, 2016 12 minutes ago, teejayevans said: Looks like they allow saving your custom plane type for others to use, so if you can wait for one of your brethren, you can ride of their coattails. So, Chris is going to do the M20F, Anthony is going to do the R, and luckily for me, it looks like Oscar will do the M20C. Thanks, Oscar! 1 Quote
Marauder Posted November 19, 2016 Author Report Posted November 19, 2016 So, Chris is going to do the M20F, Anthony is going to do the R, and luckily for me, it looks like Oscar will do the M20C. Thanks, Oscar! Chris is done with the F. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
Marauder Posted November 19, 2016 Author Report Posted November 19, 2016 But then again, my checklist is probably closer to a NASA launch checklist. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Quote
carusoam Posted November 19, 2016 Report Posted November 19, 2016 The Long Body adds some complexity to the WnB... There is a max landing weight that is not the same as MTOW.  This requires a dashed line to be put onto the envelope chart.  All landings are supposed to occur when below the max landing weight. i am still using an old ipad1 that has my WnB app on it... Mooney should want to get on the App band wagon! 1) Selecting landing speeds, using the Don Kaye method... attitude for forward speed, power for vertical speed, during the landing process.... 2) selecting T/O distances using current weather and temperature data would be a breeze... 3) knowing your WnB shouldn't be a guess.  Fifth friends don't fit in the WnB app or the baggage compartment... 4) then there is all the in flight things like sound level in my Mooney, and is that cloud taller than my flight path? GenX PP ideas, not a Boomer, CFI or greater...  Best regards, -a- Quote
Marauder Posted November 19, 2016 Author Report Posted November 19, 2016 The Long Body adds some complexity to the WnB... There is a max landing weight that is not the same as MTOW.  This requires a dashed line to be put onto the envelope chart.  All landings are supposed to occur when below the max landing weight. i am still using an old ipad1 that has my WnB app on it... Mooney should want to get on the App band wagon! 1) Selecting landing speeds, using the Don Kaye method... attitude for forward speed, power for vertical speed, during the landing process.... 2) selecting T/O distances using current weather and temperature data would be a breeze... 3) knowing your WnB shouldn't be a guess.  Fifth friends don't fit in the WnB app or the baggage compartment... 4) then there is all the in flight things like sound level in my Mooney, and is that cloud taller than my flight path? GenX PP ideas, not a Boomer, CFI or greater...  Best regards, -a- There is a max landing weight option in GPNext excuse Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Marauder Posted November 19, 2016 Author Report Posted November 19, 2016 A couple of features I like;- capability to do to something else after completing a checklist. On my missed approach checklist, I have it go back to the map. If I have the chart overlaid on it, I have it immediately available. Same for my after landing checklist, I can pull up SafeTaxi if it doesn't pull up on its own. - the W&B can store favorites. Makes it nice to quickly add weight. And you know how important weight is to me. I do wish they would allow more capability in the editing of checklists. The emergency section in the M20J is basically the same as mine. Would be nice if I could copy a portion of a checklist into mine. I also think they need some work on their freehand feature. Great if you are VFR, needs to be able to identify airways. Anyone try the downloads from AOPA planner or the other software they said was compatible?Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Quote
Bob_Belville Posted November 19, 2016 Report Posted November 19, 2016 I now have a FS 510 in my GTN 750 and my Android tablet is playing nice with the GTN. I see traffic on the tablet and can upload flight plans from the tablet. GPilot just upgraded to ver. 5.5.0 yesterday but I don't see W&B yet. Is there a pattern for how much lag Garmin usually has from new features on IPad to Android? Quote
wishboneash Posted November 19, 2016 Report Posted November 19, 2016 7 hours ago, Marauder said: Anyone try the downloads from AOPA planner or the other software they said was compatible?  I was able to load a plan from AOPA flight planner by sending the plan via email and loading it on my iPad Mini2 running GP. Worked seamlessly. However, the same thing didn't work from Skyvector. There is a blue "button" in the email which was unresponsive on my tablet. I will stick to AOPA. Quote
wishboneash Posted November 19, 2016 Report Posted November 19, 2016 36 minutes ago, Bob_Belville said: I now have a FS 510 in my GTN 750 and my Android tablet is playing nice with the GTN. I see traffic on the tablet and can upload flight plans from the tablet. GPilot just upgraded to ver. 5.5.0 yesterday but I don't see W&B yet. Is there a pattern for how much lag Garmin usually has from new features on IPad to Android? I gave up on GP for Android more than a year ago, it just lags in features far too much to be useful. Moreover, I prefer the iPad Mini hardware platform, connects easily to my GDL39 without issues. Quote
Bob_Belville Posted November 19, 2016 Report Posted November 19, 2016 Just now, wishboneash said: I gave up on GP for Android more than a year ago, it just lags in features far too much to be useful. Moreover, I prefer the iPad Mini hardware platform, connects easily to my GDL39 without issues. Okay. But that's not helpful. Perhaps someone knows the answer to my question. (I love AAPL stock but I've never owned any of their products.) Quote
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