faa $500 rebate.....get them while they last!

[tony]

https://www.faa.gov/news/fact_sheets/news_story.cfm?newsId=20434

 

[GeorgePerry]

No retroactive reward for early adopters.  since i'm in that boat.  

FAA pays the procrastinators and since the program doesn't start till the fall, it encourages even more procrastination.  

This is beyond the "political" discussion of whether or not this is a wise use of tax dollars.  I bet most Americans would say no.

[1524J]

3 minutes ago, GeorgePerry said:

No retroactive reward for early adopters.  since i'm in that boat.  

FAA pays the procrastinators and since the program doesn't start till the fall, it encourages even more procrastination.  

This is beyond the "political" discussion of whether or not this is a wise use of tax dollars.  I bet most Americans would say no.

As a card carrying member of the CB procrastinators club I'm holding out for $1000 rebate.

 

 

Typical government program......

[Marauder]

Just now, 1524J said:

As a card carrying member of the CB procrastinators club I'm holding out for $1000 rebate.

 

 

Typical government program......

As your CB President, I'm advising all our members to hold out. It will be just a matter of time before they pay for everything so they can tell everyone the program was a raving success.

[bradp]

I could personally be eligible for this and I am even thinking this is a stupid waste of my own and your tax dollars.  

[Guest]

Are Canadians eligible?  $500.00 U.S. is like winning a lottery.

Clarence

[Raptor05121]

$500 wouldn't even help me with the amount of avionics and panel work I'd need to be 2020 compliant. My C has basically 0 avionics.

[Yetti]

Well that should slow down installs till September

[1964-M20E]

That's the gov't for you keep working on it until it is broke.

 

 

[steingar]

Gotta love pilots.  The FAA offers to pay you for upgrading your airplane and you bitch.

[Danb]

58 minutes ago, steingar said:

Gotta love pilots.  The FAA offers to pay you for upgrading your airplane and you bitch.

EXCEPT IN THERE WISDOM HOW PRODUCTIVE WILL IT BE. MY BUDDY WITH BRAND B IS CANCELING  HIS INSTALLATION UNTIL SEPT. IT WAS SCH. FOR JULY.

[Marauder]

Gotta love pilots.  The FAA offers to pay you for upgrading your airplane and you bitch.

The ones that are bitchin' are the ones who spent their money already. I'm sitting on the sideline waiting for it to get to $1,000.

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[aviatoreb]

17 minutes ago, Marauder said:

The ones that are bitchin' are the ones who spent their money already. I'm sitting on the sideline waiting for it to get to $1,000.

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That's me. I already invested.  I want my government hand out.

[Godfather]

I think you can tell from the "likes" on these two threads who is eligible and who is excluded.  It's amusing to me the ones who change their tune as soon as they find out they are selected.  

[Browncbr1]

when will they start giving out fuel stamps ?

Really, this is stupid...   Watch the prices of various adsb hardware go up by about $500...   Same thing happened with the stupid shift to digital TV broadcasting and the rebates for digital converters...  

 

Everyone should just hold out until they start extending the deadline every year.. 

[aviatoreb]

Isn't the US Military holding out?  Do I remember correctly that there isn't enough ADSB hardware in the pipeline to get the US Military to speed in time so they have already said they won't make it. Maybe the FAA can give my $500 to some poor USAFA pilot so he/she can afford an ADSB transpnder for the stealth bomber?

[tony]

The US military is even more dysfunctional than the FAA.  They aren't holding out, they just can't get their SH*T together to get it done.  They think they will get an exception.  Wonder how a C-17 or a C-5 is going fly just under class A airspace. 

[kris_adams]

Getting my KT74 with ADSB out tomorrow.  I'be never been very good at timing my government hand outs

[1524J]

So here's my take on this handout.....I own an airplane.....I'm not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination.....but I own an airplane. It's as luxury an item, I suppose, as a person could have. I'll have three kids in college in September, a wife who just retired from teaching after 29 years, and lost two partners on the plane within the last six months. But....I own an airplane. If our government sees fit to give aid to a group of people, and I'm as conservative as they come, I'm not sure airplane owners fit the bill.

Now, just as soon as they raise the handout to $1000....I'm all over it!!     

[Rustler]

If you think about it, if the FAA is going to give "rewards" to ADS-B adopters, they should be given to those of us who were early adopters and installed the system without any idea of being a recipient of government money. Quite frankly, the less the Feds are involved in my flying the better; I've never known them to "give" you something (your money, by the way) without expecting something in return. Wonder what it will be.

[mooniac15u]

8 hours ago, Rustler said:

If you think about it, if the FAA is going to give "rewards" to ADS-B adopters, they should be given to those of us who were early adopters and installed the system without any idea of being a recipient of government money. Quite frankly, the less the Feds are involved in my flying the better; I've never known them to "give" you something (your money, by the way) without expecting something in return. Wonder what it will be.

It's an incentive plan, not a reward plan. The goal is to encourage people to act who otherwise might not. Paying people who already acted wouldn't accomplish anything. If this program is successful it seems likely that they might extend it.

What will they want in return? I'm pretty sure they will want you to have ADS-B installed.

[Mooneymite]

The company I work for probably has 200 or more jets that are not ADS-B compliant.  No plans have been announced as to how compliance will be achieved.  Since most of those planes don't  have WAAS GPS either, there is a major re-fit involved.  Now add in training hundreds of crew members on the new WAAS approaches and up-graded FMSes and the down time for all those planes when we're  short of lift now and then think about all the other fleets in the US;  you'll understand our installation headaches are minor.

2020?

We'll see.  I don't  think a $500 incentive will fix this, but I'll take the cash!

Edited June 8, 2016 by Mooneymite

[kevinw]

The shop that does my work told me they're completely swamped with ADS-B installs right now and they're scheduling work several months out. If this is the case elsewhere there's no need for an "incentive". We have a 2020 mandate and we're all required to get our planes compliant; it's not an option. If ADS-B was optional, the rebate would make a whole lot more sense. The incentive that motivated me was the weather and traffic that comes with it and that's worth far more to me than $500. One last thing...how much of the rebate is the consumer really going to get? I have a feeling install labor may creep up and discounts on equipment may change as well. In the end, the shops may be the ones that come out on top.

[Browncbr1]

yea, it smells of industry lobbying to drive sales.. 

[DXB]

For the late adopters, perhaps a rise in the market rate for avionics labor caused by the rush of later folks to install will offset their $500 rebates. Of course as an early adopter, I would never hope to negate the good fortune of fellow Mooney owners who happen to be late adopters.