Death of an Airplane - Alan Wrecks a Mooney Video

[flyboy0681]

On 3/1/2016 at 3:17 PM, bonal said:

definitely supports my theory that these things are basically flying beer cans but I was just wondering that saw looks pretty intense and no safety glasses. yikes!

 

 Or gloves.

[Shadrach]

Tipton had a rough year in 2015. I just read the synopsis on previous crash.  What a $hitshow...  It pays to make sure you have a good instructor. 

The flight instructor, while giving instruction, stated he landed the tricycle landing gear equipped airplane at midfield in wind conditions that were reported from the SSW gusting to 23knots. Following a runway excursion on to soft terrain, the pilot said the airplane had come to a stop, undamaged, when "the nose wheel sank and the right wingtip contacted the dirt."

Witnesses reported that the airplane touched down midfield, braked hard, and did not come to a complete stop prior to the airplanes right wing striking the ground.

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:

• The flight instructor's decision to land the airplane without sufficient runway to stop, resulting in a runway excursion and substantial damage to the right wing of the airplane.

 

 

[C-GHIJ]

Sad death to a nice Mooney.  Never like to see one go under the saw.   R.I.P. dear Mooney

Is it me or does Alan's saw sound like my dentist's drill ????  Now I know why I don't like the dentists.

[Yetti]

On 3/1/2016 at 2:17 PM, bonal said:

definitely supports my theory that these things are basically flying beer cans but I was just wondering that saw looks pretty intense and no safety glasses. yikes!

 

just an abrasive blade in an engine driven saw.  Cutting alum there is not a lot of derbies off the blade.  a fair amount of it will stay attached to what you are cutting.   The strength of the wing comes from the angles and structures that are built with all the riveting, not from the alum skin.

[Seth]

Alan - didn't realize you were at Tipton!  I would have driven over and assisted or brought some food (though that was taken care of).

It does pain me to see a Mooney get chopped up, but as Alan said, and as noted here, the donor parts will keep the rest of the fleet flying!

Just out of curiosity, take a look at the spar cap when you get home and if it doesn't look perfect, post a picture showing what to look for so we are al enlightened, as that tends to be a death sentence of many of our birds.

-Seth

[carl]

i looked at the center  spar it looked great. the whole plane was in great condition .

 

i felt it could be  use for some thing .

 

i felt the owner had really kept after the maintenance . the paint was a nice modern green with some small flake . 

the windows were awesome . appeared new .  i got the windows .but there are already drilled so i wonder it they will 

match with my planes screw holes. 

carl

[bonal]

On March 4, 2016 at 5:50 AM, Yetti said:

just an abrasive blade in an engine driven saw.  Cutting alum there is not a lot of derbies off the blade.  a fair amount of it will stay attached to what you are cutting.   The strength of the wing comes from the angles and structures that are built with all the riveting, not from the alum skin.

I stand by my safety glasses comment but you must know I was kidding around with the can comment. Jeees Louwize 

[Yetti]

beer cans hold fuel better :-)

[Aerodon]

On March 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Pictreed said:

Was that windscreen in bad shape?

it would have been great to just cut around that part of the cabin to get the trim and everything. 

Windshields are not that expensive in comparison to the labor to install.  And they are one of the more perishable items on a plane, much higher risk of a second hand screen cracking during removal or reinstallation. The get scratched and age,  its one of the items I cringe where I see one for resale - I would not do it.  Don

[Guest]

On March 4, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Yetti said:

just an abrasive blade in an engine driven saw.  Cutting alum there is not a lot of derbies off the blade.  a fair amount of it will stay attached to what you are cutting.   The strength of the wing comes from the angles and structures that are built with all the riveting, not from the alum skin.

Aren't our planes(other than the Mooney fuselage) monocoque structures where the skin carries load?

As for the abrasive disc, they are deadly. My buddy works in the hospital, where they recently had a patient who was using one when the disc exploded.  A large chunk flew off the disc, lodging itself firmly in his sternum, stopping fractions of an inch from his heart.

Clarence

[Alan Fox]

38 minutes ago, M20Doc said:

Aren't our planes(other than the Mooney fuselage) monocoque structures where the skin carries load?

As for the abrasive disc, they are deadly. My buddy works in the hospital, where they recently had a patient who was using one when the disc exploded.  A large chunk flew off the disc, lodging itself firmly in his sternum, stopping fractions of an inch from his heart.

Clarence

They are of a Monocoque  design and the strenghth is in the skin , the skin is held in place by the supporting structure , they are basically equal parts of the same equation , any part of that wing or tail or emp , individually can be bent by a 12 year old with little effort , that includes the beloved spar , without the caps or wing fastened to it , it is just a flimsy piece of sheet metal....

[flyboy0681]

1 hour ago, M20Doc said:

. My buddy works in the hospital, where they recently had a patient who was using one when the disc exploded.  A large chunk flew off the disc, lodging itself firmly in his sternum, stopping fractions of an inch from his heart.

 

Are here any lawyers on this board?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, flyboy0681 said:

Are here any lawyers on this board?

They're everywhere, doing their good deeds.

Clarence

Edited March 6, 2016 by M20Doc

[Hank]

2 hours ago, M20Doc said:

They're everywhere, doing their good deeds.

Clarence

I'll agree completely to the first, but you've got to CONVINCE ME of the second . . . I'm just not a believer.