M20J versus Cirrus G3

[Vref]

Yepp, my day is good. I just read an article in Dutch/German Pilot magazine about the G3. Well I couldn't stop thinking , this my M20J can do also.....even better. for less then 279K $ without any plastic

75% @ 155 Kts 12Gallons/Hr

441Kg (972Lbs) usefull load  627 Nm on 200Hp

At least we don't need to fake the gear switch to learn student Pilots the right drill (CLGS)l....What's next stop the real flying?

For 200K$ you can equip an old mooney with a lot of glass.and extra's..

Aren't we all priveliged  to know the big Mooney secret...?

PS:My bird finally is going in the paint shop...pfffffffffft....I wannaaa fly now...sorry frustration

 

[Carl S]

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PS:My bird finally is going in the paint shop...pfffffffffft....I wannaaa fly now...sorry frustration 

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 Judging by your past picures, your birddy should be wonderful when done.

 

P.S Don't be too frustrated. Nichts ist so neu, als was längst vergessen ist.

[richardheitzman]

You took the wings off to paint??? Oh the cost of it! WOW. I have never seen that done before. They don't do that even at the Factory.

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You took the wings off to paint??? Oh the cost of it! WOW. I have never seen that done before. They don't do that even at the Factory.

[flyboy0681]

I just recently read an article in Aviation Consumer (I think) and it talked about skin repairs to composite planes versus metal. My eyes bulged by what was mentioned. A case was discussed where some Cirrus owner struck something on the ground which resulted in a hairline crack in the wing, out towards the tip. The repair was $23k because all kinds of special work had to be done, from finding a repair station qualified to handle the special work to using equipment to see the crack on a scope, to the fix, to the curing process... the list went on. The author mentioned that the same repair on a 182 would have cost about $3k and went on to say that this was a primary example of why insurance rates for this type of aircraft is much higher than the jalopies we fly.

Food for thought.

 

 

 

[Piloto]

You are very right Flyboy. As an example of stress tolerance you can bend aluminum skin 90 deg without cracking or breaking like is done during the manufacturing process of aluminum parts. Try the same with composite and it will crack at less than 40 deg. Lightning is another of my concerns. On a metal plane you are surrounded by a uniform conductive metal shield. On a composite there may be gaps of conductivity that could lead to an in-flight electrocution. Even if you do not get electrocuted your nice G1000 may be gone in a thunderstorm. Mooneys have big advantage on this over the Cirrus, that's why no parachute is required.  

[Vref]

Love this subject, yepp almost everybody can detect a loose metal sheet or bent panel though cracked/damaged glass maybe be very difficult to discover... Plastic Planes take specialised skills to repair mainly found in the glider world .....

Take this example on my previous motorglider some gelcoat was chipping off where the wings meet the fuselage. I did the work myself which took several hours of work. Repairing Plastic Planes with structural damage is $$$$$$ expensive because you don't replace a part you need to laminate it in and then put gelcoat on it, its a totally diffrent business then metal sheet work.....