flyboy0681 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 I've been away for a few days and not sure if this was posted previously. Does anybody know who owns "Arrow" N9142H? http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-lauderdale-airport-emergency-landing-20150809-story.html Quote
gsengle Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 96 m20j according to the registry.... Look closely managed to stop engine and no prop strike, nice job.., Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
mooniac15u Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 The owner has been on MS (jsclafani) but not recently. Quote
carusoam Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 Best looking piper arrow I've ever seen... Best regards, -a- 3 Quote
Raptor05121 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 look closely managed to stop engine and no prop strike, nice job.., Do you not see the video of the prop smacking the ground? Quote
mpg Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 96 m20j according to the registry.... Look closely managed to stop engine and no prop strike, nice job.., Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Not an Arrow,,, prop was spinning, it was a prop strike! Very nice landing though... Quote
gsengle Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 I guess I didn't look closely! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 Bad day...Hope it is close to TBO and he can save some money on overhaul. Quote
jetdriven Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 It doesn't matter. They give you 8 grand for a TDI and you decide what to spend over and above that. Quote
ryoder Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 It doesn't matter. They give you 8 grand for a TDI and you decide what to spend over and above that. I would add another 3k to that and have Jewell Aviation overhaul it. Quote
Alan Fox Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 I would be weary of an 11K overhaul..... Quote
Ftlausa Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 According to the mechanic I spoke with at FXE, the gear motor came apart and jammed the mechanism. He could not manually extend the gear. Quote
bradp Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 I wonder if faced with a similarly crappy situation once you knew you had the field made and cut the power would you 1) leave the prop flat to try to prevent windmilling given you know you've got the field... And 2) give the starter a nudge or two to maybe get the prop horizontal if it's not being wind milled. Personally I'd just care about landing the damn thing but am just thinking about possibilities. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
mooniac15u Posted August 16, 2015 Report Posted August 16, 2015 I wonder if faced with a similarly crappy situation once you knew you had the field made and cut the power would you 1) leave the prop flat to try to prevent windmilling given you know you've got the field... And 2) give the starter a nudge or two to maybe get the prop horizontal if it's not being wind milled. Personally I'd just care about landing the damn thing but am just thinking about possibilities. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Decreasing your airspeed to stop the prop on final is probably not a good idea. 2 Quote
LANCECASPER Posted August 16, 2015 Report Posted August 16, 2015 I wonder if faced with a similarly crappy situation once you knew you had the field made and cut the power would you 1) leave the prop flat to try to prevent windmilling given you know you've got the field... And 2) give the starter a nudge or two to maybe get the prop horizontal if it's not being wind milled. Personally I'd just care about landing the damn thing but am just thinking about possibilities. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Once it's determined that the gear isn't coming down I would figure that the airplane now belongs to the insurance company. I would only be concerned with two things at that point - keeping my airspeed on final a safe cushion above stall speed and getting out of there once on the ground.. 2 Quote
mooniac15u Posted August 16, 2015 Report Posted August 16, 2015 Once it's determined that the gear isn't coming down I would figure that the airplane now belongs to the insurance company. I would only be concerned with two things at that point - keeping my airspeed on final a safe cushion above stall speed and getting out of there once on the ground.. That is exactly what I did. I kept reminding myself not to make a bad situation worse. Quote
ryoder Posted August 16, 2015 Report Posted August 16, 2015 Decreasing your airspeed to stop the prop on final is probably not a good idea. I think there was an air safety institute article on why this is a bad idea. I don't care whose airplane it is, it's not worth my life or even risking a broken collarbone to save it. Quote
ryoder Posted August 16, 2015 Report Posted August 16, 2015 I would be weary of an 11K overhaul..... I'll let you know how it turns out. Quote
Hank Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 Once it's determined that the gear isn't coming down I would figure that the airplane now belongs to the insurance company. I would only be concerned with two things at that point - keeping my airspeed on final a safe cushion above stall speed and getting out of there once on the ground.. Make a normal landing, same speed for your weight, just ignore the "U" in your GUMP check. Everything else will be the same, less power for the missing gear drag, flare like normal and just settle down an extra foot. My 3-blade will never clear the pavement. Quote
fantom Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 I was a bit surprised he was allowed to land at busy FXE, rather than being diverted to a smaller GA airport nearby after burning off fuel. Quote
mooniac15u Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 I was a bit surprised he was allowed to land at busy FXE, rather than being diverted to a smaller GA airport nearby after burning off fuel. When it happened to me I was already at a reliever airport and they tried to talk me into going to a larger airport where they had fire crews on the field. I politely declined. Quote
gsengle Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 You really think that any airport would refuse an emergency and even if they did the pilot would feel free to ignore em. I'd head to the nearest big airport with nice pavement and fire/ambulance.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Piloto Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 I was a bit surprised he was allowed to land at busy FXE, rather than being diverted to a smaller GA airport nearby after burning off fuel. KXE was a good choice. It has plenty of shops like Premier Mooney service center that can repair it. After landing the plane is lifted by hand into dollies and then moved to the shop. It takes about 10 minutes to clear the runway. José 1 Quote
StinkBug Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 After landing the plane is lifted by hand into dollies and then moved to the shop. It takes about 10 minutes to clear the runway. José LOL, not quite. That story even mentions using a crane. It's a lot more than 10 minutes. Hell a 172 blew a tire on the runway at CRQ last week and it took 45min to clear it. Add in a bunch of FAA folks "investigating" and it could take all day. Last gear up I saw closed the airport for several hours. Quote
jbs007 Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 CRQ would take 45 min to clear a 172 with a popped tire. All those fancy airplane owners and FBO personnel were probably too busy scoffing at the 172 to help or even get out of the way. I bet 18 people tried suing the Cessna owner too. I bought my Mooney at FXE and I bet people are more amenable to being helpful there. You should fly out of KSEE instead Quote
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