par Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Just came across this: http://wavy.com/2015/03/04/communication-lost-with-small-plane-heading-to-orf/ Quote
Marauder Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Another site is reporting the plane N is 66BB. Quote
FloridaMan Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Reports say there were three on board. Odd place to come down being that they were on the approach to 23. Quote
par Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Posted March 4, 2015 The WX here was pretty bad overnight as well. I think there was fog well below ILS mins. Quote
FloridaMan Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Post removed; the reported pilot's name is not the owner. My apologies. Quote
orionflt Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 he has several incidents that I found dating back to 1994 in a G model mooney. Looking at his track record I might have rethought my love of flying. Brian Quote
Marauder Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 It also looks like he was not instrument rated and was flying in pretty bad conditions. Missed at his destination. Quote
wiguy Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 If this is the same pilot that ran out of fuel buzzing his house, that's some bad stuff. One has to feel for any passengers onboard and their families. Quote
midlifeflyer Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 It also looks like he was not instrument rated and was flying in pretty bad conditions. Missed at his destination. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1425481685.755859.jpg Yep. No instrument rating shown in the FAA Airman Database. Quote
Dale Logsdon Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Looks like he was in the air close to 4.5 hrs. May have been a fuel problem again. Quote
neilpilot Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Same pilot had another incident in a M20G back is 1994, also involving fuel starvation. http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20001206X01972&ntsbno=BFO94LA149&akey=1 Quote
orionflt Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 my daughter flew in from Colorado last night and I was watching the weather and delays around the country, Last night was not a good night for GA flying even for a proficient instrument rated pilot. Brian Quote
midlifeflyer Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 LiveATC feed: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/korf/KORF-Mar-04-2015-0830Z.mp3 Quote
orionflt Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 This was one of the Pilots that give the rest a bad name, unfortunately he took others with him. Brian Quote
Marauder Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Yep. No instrument rating shown in the FAA Airman Database. The FlightAware track also shows him at 7000 on this final leg. Quote
Marauder Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Same pilot had another incident in a M20G back is 1994, also involving fuel starvation. http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20001206X01972&ntsbno=BFO94LA149&akey=1 Unbelievable! If this event in Norfolk is fuel starvation, I can't believe a person who had two prior fuel starvation accidents would do this again. Quote
aviatoreb Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 430am - so dark, exceedingly low visibility - so this was an instrument flight in the dark by a noninstrument rated pilot? And several previous crashes including a run-out of fuel while buzzing his own house? Quote
aviatoreb Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Unbelievable! If this event in Norfolk is fuel starvation, I can't believe a person who had two prior fuel starvation accidents would do this again. Its amazing he lived, and continues to live through multiple crashes, even though his passengers are not so lucky. Quote
FloridaMan Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 LiveATC feed: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/korf/KORF-Mar-04-2015-0830Z.mp3 "Are you getting pushed around by the wind; I'm showing you up and down and left and right..." "6BB What's your fuel state" "I've got about an hour" "6BB I'm showing you way left of course..." "Cancel approach clearance [to another pilot]" "6BB you're way off the localizer" "6BB you want to attempt this approach again?" "We'll take another swing at it" Quote
HRM Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Its amazing he lived, and continues to live through multiple crashes, even though his passengers are not so lucky. Incredible, just incredible. This following a lengthy discussion of accidents involving non-IR pilots flying in IMC intentionally. Quote
par Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Posted March 4, 2015 Unbelievable that he would make the decision to take off in the first place. I wonder if he ever checked the wx. Judging by the ATC feed, i'm going to guess he did not. Quote
Andy95W Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 If these initial reports are true, hopefully he'll be prosecuted for manslaughter and have his license revoked forever. Quote
Marauder Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 "Are you getting pushed around by the wind; I'm showing you up and down and left and right..." "6BB What's your fuel state" "I've got about an hour" "6BB I'm showing you way left of course..." "Cancel approach clearance [to another pilot]" "6BB you're way off the localizer" "6BB you want to attempt this approach again?" "We'll take another swing at it" I don't think I ever heard a controller cancel someone's approach clearance while they were "on" the approach but they were so far off of the localizer. The entire audio portion made me sick... Ground speed of 30 knots, telling the controller his gyros were precessing too much and that the turbulence was so severe that things were flying around in the cockpit. Not a good situation at all... Quote
Marauder Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Did he survive? Don't know. I will check the Norfolk news channels. Quote
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