dcrogers11 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 Anyone here has permission to slap me if I complain about my hangar being too cold to work in after watching these guys put a DC-3 back together in less than desirable conditions. https://www.youtube.com/embed/9ruArctYYbM?feature=player_detailpage Don 1 Quote
aviatoreb Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 I cant believe they did it - that seems like a lot more man hours than the airplane is worth, from a financial standpoint. I mean a double prop strike and nose crush, gear crush at an airport in Texas is one thing, but in Antarctica, the cost must have been massive. Quote
par Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 I'm sure it cost a lot and maybe even more than its worth but its good to see it saved. Good on these people for their effort and it definitely paid off. Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 That's one of the DC3s converted by Basler in Oshkosh. They are worth a bunch of money. I would help for free if they would take me along. 1 Quote
aviatoreb Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 I wasn't wanting to be a sour doubty - It sure is cool! I was just wondering if that project might be costing like 10 times as much as the airframe value. I guess not. She flies again. Quote
Bob_Belville Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Is it a $5 million plane? http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/aircraft-for-sale/MCDONNELL-DOUGLAS-DC-3-TURBINE/1944-MCDONNELL-DOUGLAS-DC-3-TURBINE/1317833.htm Quote
MooneyBob Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 That's one of the DC3s converted by Basler in Oshkosh. They are worth a bunch of money. I would help for free if they would take me along. That's what I said. Next time count me in. I pay for my travel expenses. Quote
dcrogers11 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Posted January 31, 2015 I can hear the local FSDO phone conversation now- "Hello FAA field office, how may I help you? I'm sorry, where did you request a field inspection?" Quote
yvesg Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Geez, weather just looks like here. Have to get the Mooney out of the snow tomorrow. Yves 1 Quote
yvesg Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 There was not much on the aircraft after all. Here is a picture. Was terribly cold though.. minus 24 C. Yves 1 Quote
N6758N Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 They cost over 8 million new from Basler. The company I used to work for has one on order, they deliver to you a zero timed airframe, basically all new everything. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
aviatoreb Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 They cost over 8 million new from Basler. The company I used to work for has one on order, they deliver to you a zero timed airframe, basically all new everything. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk How do they zero time a 1940 built airplane? I'm not doubting it is a very desirable airplane and very useful. Are two PT6 engines that expensive? I would almost think that for $8M you could build a new one from scratch. Heck - this DC3 updated to a turbine seems like such a useful and good idea I would think it would pay for someone to actually do that - start building new DC3s. Is a zero-timed one really that much overhauled? I have never been in a DC3 of any kind but I always imagine a rickety old beautiful beast - not a ready for the next century $8m airplane. Quote
Bob_Belville Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 I have never been in a DC3 of any kind but I always imagine a rickety old beautiful beast - not a ready for the next century $8m airplane. I don't remember when DC3s last flew on major US airlines, I flew on them on Ozark Airlines in the early '60s. I think they made a stop between St. Louis and Springfield. They didn't seem all that different from the Convair, DC6b, Martin 404 etc except that the aisle inclined quite a bit from the entry door with the tail on the tarmac. Quote
kmyfm20s Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 That was amazing! I think I heard him say the budget was $5000 a day for 40 days. $200,000 in man hours not bad! Quote
Raptor05121 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 How do they zero time a 1940 built airplane? I'm not doubting it is a very desirable airplane and very useful. Are two PT6 engines that expensive? I would almost think that for $8M you could build a new one from scratch. Heck - this DC3 updated to a turbine seems like such a useful and good idea I would think it would pay for someone to actually do that - start building new DC3s. Is a zero-timed one really that much overhauled? I have never been in a DC3 of any kind but I always imagine a rickety old beautiful beast - not a ready for the next century $8m airplane. They lengthen the fuselage, replace bulkheads and stringers, completely gut and replace all electronics and controls, refine the wingtips, add the two turboprops, completely new cockpit, etc. Quote
Guest Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 I can hear the local FSDO phone conversation now- "Hello FAA field office, how may I help you? I'm sorry, where did you request a field inspection?" I think the FAA inspector might say " contact Transport Canada, that's a Canadian DC3 from Alberta" Clarence Quote
carusoam Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 Fabric control surfaces still? -a- Quote
N6758N Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 How do they zero time a 1940 built airplane? I'm not doubting it is a very desirable airplane and very useful. Are two PT6 engines that expensive? I would almost think that for $8M you could build a new one from scratch. Heck - this DC3 updated to a turbine seems like such a useful and good idea I would think it would pay for someone to actually do that - start building new DC3s. Is a zero-timed one really that much overhauled? I have never been in a DC3 of any kind but I always imagine a rickety old beautiful beast - not a ready for the next century $8m airplane. I'm not sure how they went about it, but they got the blessing from the FAA to zero time it. This is literally a new airplane, and a pair of PT-6s aren't cheap. Basler has the capability to produce new parts for both the turbine and classic versions. The fuselage is stretched, the outer leading edge has a new airfoil, and the gross weight went up significantly. Consider a brand new Twin Otter at ~6 million, not nearly as capable as one of these DC-3s. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
Bob_Belville Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 I'm not sure how they went about it, but they got the blessing from the FAA to zero time it. This is literally a new airplane, and a pair of PT-6s aren't cheap. Basler has the capability to produce new parts for both the turbine and classic versions. The fuselage is stretched, the outer leading edge has a new airfoil, and the gross weight went up significantly. Consider a brand new Twin Otter at ~6 million, not nearly as capable as one of these DC-3s. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk And you're flying history! How cool is that? Drive your Woody to the aerodrome. Quote
N6758N Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 Fabric control surfaces still? -a- I believe all control surfaces on the Basler are aluminum Anthony. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
N6758N Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 http://www.baslerturbo.com/bt-67.html Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote
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