M20D6607U Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 My incandescant landing light stopped working. I wanted to use the Teledyne LED Alphabeam landing, but it's not approved for my Mooney. I would also like to replace the nav lights at some point. What LED landing light do you recommend? Happy Holidays! Quote
Hank Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 I'm using the Whelen Parmetheus and like it. Don't know what to put on the wingtips but would like to! 1 Quote
omega708 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 +1 on the Whelen Parmetheus. Very happy with the performance and reliability. 1 Quote
BigTex Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Is this swap out approved to be done by the owner or will it require hangar elves? 1 Quote
omega708 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Is this swap out approved to be done by the owner or will it require hangar elves? It's a direct replacement for the original bulb and should be easy for you to do if you've been replacing the standard "GE" bulbs. 1 Quote
ArtVandelay Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 I'm using the Whelen Parmetheus and like it. Don't know what to put on the wingtips but would like to! Look at the Whelen Orion line, if you want strobes 1 Quote
moodychief Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 At OshKosh the Whelen Rep told me the landing light and belly strobes are direct replacements for my existing lights. However, he said the LED nav lights and position light require an extra wire to be routed from the bus. 1 Quote
Hank Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 I've replaced both of those when the old ones quit working. But it's difficult finding nav lites that will fit inside the 201-style wingtips. They still work, but it would be nice to replace them with LED Nav/strobe combination lites. I'm. It sure how. Uh value there is in trying to replace the little bitty white light in the tail. 1 Quote
ArtVandelay Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 At OshKosh the Whelen Rep told me the landing light and belly strobes are direct replacements for my existing lights. However, he said the LED nav lights and position light require an extra wire to be routed from the bus. The nav/strobe lights have 4 wires, +/-12v, strobe, sync....I did without the sync, the also don't need a power supply. Ditto for the tail/strobe combo, if you don't have strobes, obviously this will require running wires thru the wing, I would do this during your annual when you already have the plane apart. Quote
Jim Peace Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 http://www.aveoengineering.com/index.php/product-info-ultra-galactica Quote
carusoam Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 "lights are a very popular choice for certified and general aviation aircraft " - from website... For "certified AND GA" planes... Something just doesn't sound quite right. Is certified different from GA? Did they mean certified and experimental? Or has GA gone solely experimental? i'm looking forward to the day when the Mooney factory selects LED lights to install in the new O4.... Best regards, -a- Quote
PTK Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 http://www.aveoengineering.com/index.php/product-info-ultra-galactica The problem with these is they are not voltage specific potentially causing radio interference and noise. (Operating Voltage Range: 9 – 32 Vdc.) The Whelen is voltage specific, either 12v or 24v. This is the way to go IMO. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 The problem with these is they are not voltage specific potentially causing radio interference and noise. (Operating Voltage Range: 9 – 32 Vdc.) The Whelen is voltage specific, either 12v or 24v. This is the way to go IMO. For those us that have VOR antennas in our wingtips, this is especially important 1 Quote
Jim Peace Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 The problem with these is they are not voltage specific potentially causing radio interference and noise. (Operating Voltage Range: 9 – 32 Vdc.) The Whelen is voltage specific, either 12v or 24v. This is the way to go IMO. Did not know that....I was considering them sometime in 2015....Lots of calls will be made to their tech department I am sure....... Quote
David Mazer Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 If your landing light doesn't work when you first install it, like mine didn't, flip the wires. The LED is polarity specific while the GE isn't. + whatever on Prometheus. Quote
M20C Posted December 25, 2014 Report Posted December 25, 2014 For the Nav lights I went with: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/lednavlightsreplacement.php?clickkey=13721 For landing light, the Whelen Prometheus PAR 46. I went with the Taxi light, rather than landing light, as it provides a wider beam (both the landing and Taxi lights are brighter then the original). My older Par 46 bulb would pop the breaker switch after about 5-10 minutes use...the LED can be used continuously with no audible noise in the radios and no indication of draw on the ammeter. Quote
Jim Peace Posted December 25, 2014 Report Posted December 25, 2014 I was thinking of going with the taxi light as well. I will not be able to try my "landing" light for several weeks. I figured being that on my 1964 C the light is so recessed that the wider beam of the taxi light would not do much anyway. How does the taxi light work out on your plane? Quote
carusoam Posted December 25, 2014 Report Posted December 25, 2014 Keep in mind that when the standard landing light trips the circuit breaker, this is a sign that the CB is wearing. Yes, they do wear. Swapping out the CB is a bit of a pain and a bit of expense... A new CB has a nice firm click to it.... A sagging instrument panel, bumps into the worn CB and trips it off, often... There are two types of CBs... 1) device that interrupts a circuit. 2) the guy who knows how to save dough while swapping out a few small worn parts... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
M20C Posted December 27, 2014 Report Posted December 27, 2014 Taxi light works great and seems brighter than the Original Landing light. Quote
Guitarmaster Posted December 28, 2014 Report Posted December 28, 2014 Is this swap out approved to be done by the owner or will it require hangar elves? No hanger ferries required! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote
M20C Posted December 29, 2014 Report Posted December 29, 2014 Keep in mind that when the standard landing light trips the circuit breaker, this is a sign that the CB is wearing. Yes, they do wear. Swapping out the CB is a bit of a pain and a bit of expense... A new CB has a nice firm click to it.... A sagging instrument panel, bumps into the worn CB and trips it off, often... There are two types of CBs... 1) device that interrupts a circuit. 2) the guy who knows how to save dough while swapping out a few small worn parts... Best regards, -a- Thanks for the advise, The problem, in my case, was more likely a poor ground. This has been corrected and the LED light works flawlessly. As a benefit the annoying "hum," with the Landing light on, is gone and the LED light is brighter while using much less juice. The circuit breaker switch still works like new and the panel has been replaced with a newer style metal panel (no sag). Quote
Stefanovm Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 I used this: http://www.scn.org/~bk269/eclipse/. It is STC'd fr older Mooneys and replacement bulb is only $12. The only item requiring beyond owner hands is electrical change from spade terminal to slip on. It does everything that Stan claims. Well, maybe not the speed increase or other humor items. I leave my landing light on almost all the time, now, when in the vicinity of others at night. When I ordered it, my problem was a ground wire that had come loose. However, I would not put the PAR back, now. Quote
cvela Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Has anyone tried the Alphabeam? I read someone reporting it had the same spread as the whelen PAR36 with a longer throw. The issue is their documentation (PMA list) only lists the M20J. I sent the vendor an email and the answer was wrong the first time and confused the second. I was told the Aplhabeam is only available in PAR46 28V. I sent them the link from spruce showing a PAR36 to which they replied it was too small for the M20J (my question was regarding an M20E). So, has anyone used or know if it is possible to use an Alphabeam on a pre-J mooney? Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.