Buyer Beware

[N601RX]

http://www.aigaviation.com/aviationsalvage/SalvagePictures.aspx?FileName=Salvage%20Photos.pdf&Extension=pdf&PictureId=5342

 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-NICE-MOONEY-M20J-201-WITH-NEW-PAINT-AND-LEATHER-INTERIOR-DELIVER-ANYWHERE-/271282869022?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3f29b8131e&item=271282869022&pt=Motors_Aircraft

 

 

 

 

[chrisk]

"This is undoutedly one of the finest Mooney 201 in existance."  --Call me skeptical.   I'd love to know what got replaced (and see the 337).  This appears to be more than the typical gear up in a Mooney.   

[Jeff_S]

So it had a gear up landing that was not disclosed on the eBay sheet.  Go figure.  Being sold by an aircraft parts warehouse, trying to get into the refurb biz I guess.

[Marauder]

I do love their email address... acpartswhse@aol.com

 

Gives me all kinds of warm and fuzzys...

[Cruiser]

It is a 1978 M20J

1. Is the airplane airworthy?

2. Is the engine airworthy?

3. Is the propeller airworthy?

[PTK]

They will not forward logbooks either! Out of curiosity I asked for last three years logs. Their answer was I will not send copies of logs unless I know you're buying it!

[rbridges]

They will not forward logbooks either! Out of curiosity I asked for last three years logs. Their answer was I will not send copies of logs unless I know you're buying it!

 

Don't know if I'm buying it unless I see the logbooks.  

[N601RX]

"This is undoutedly one of the finest Mooney 201 in existance."  --Call me skeptical.   I'd love to know what got replaced (and see the 337).  This appears to be more than the typical gear up in a Mooney.   

If one was even filled out.  It looks like one of the wings was completely sheared off at the end of the flap.

[John Pleisse]

Engine tear down at 1500+ hours, no mention of prop? Is it airworthy as Tom asks? Probably. They are asking, basically what it is worth. A 1978 J, with a recent gear up and 3/4 shot engine, fresh off a tear down.  If it were repaired by a top facility with a new prop and OH zero timed engine, -11% for damage, you're looking at the low $60k's at best, anyway. Not a deal IMHO.

[jetdriven]

I emailed Jerry Pressley about this one a couple months ago when it came on eBay the first time.  He lied his ass off, he said the engine was installed by Don Maxwell and had 1500 SMOH and no damage history.  Owned by an old man who didnt have time to fly it anymore and poured his heart and soul into it.  right.

[N33GG]

Come on guys....  I see lots of threads where many of you go on and on about how a gear up is no big deal if it was repaired right. 

 

Rarely do you get pictures of the plane before the repair like the OP has provided.  Ah, the power of a picture!  This is exactly why I run from planes with damage history.  It may look OK, it may get inspected by the best of the best, but you still don't really know what happened and what has been left out of the logs.  Especially in this Buyer's market, there are plenty of NDH aircraft to choose from.

 

But as nice as this one looks on eBay, I may have to make an exception.  As pretty as that paint job is, what could be wrong??? 

[jetdriven]

A gear up landing properly repaired is one thing. A wing completely sheared off, and a new prop stuck on a seriously prop struck airplane is another.

[wishboneash]

"This is undoutedly one of the finest Mooney 201 in existance." 

 

A couple of bad spelling mistakes right on the first line doesn't bode well at all.

[fantom]

You guys are overlooking the fact that the seller has 100% positive feedback.

[jetdriven]

witth 6 or 8 negative feedbacks describing the aircraft he sold as "misrepresented" "took my money then sold to another", "non-airworthy", and "a fraud"

 

But what do you expect from someone who killed his own son and had his A&P revoked to make a fast buck.

[KSMooniac]

I remember seeing this one last year when looking at salvage planes.

 

On August 31, 2012, about 1050 Pacific daylight time, a Mooney M20J, N132PC, sustained substantial damage during a forced landing following a loss of engine power near Chelan, Washington. The commercial pilot, the sole occupant, sustained minor injuries. The pilot/owner was operating the aircraft under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed for the personal local flight, which had originated from Chelan approximately 20 minutes before the accident. A flight plan had not been filed. 

The pilot reported that the engine suddenly stopped producing power. He performed a forced landing to a road, and the airplane's right wing impacted a power pole during the landing roll.

[fantom]

But what do you expect from someone who killed his own son and had his A&P revoked to make a fast buck.

 

What keeps him out of jail is beyond me.....along with the guru in, or around, Venice, FL.

[Mike A]

 

 

 

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[Mike A]

Also, does anyone know if Chartis will release what the winning salvage bid was on this plane?

[John Pleisse]

But what do you expect from someone who killed his own son...........

 

 

The son was complicit. Hey, I am not sticking up for Pressley, but there is low and then there is just lowly. Real smooth, brah.

 

From the NTSB report:

 

PERSONNEL INFORMATION

According to Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) records, the accident pilot did not hold an airframe and/or powerplant mechanic certificate. The FAA records also indicate that his airman certificate was suspended for 180 days, effective February 9, 1996. The suspension was due to the fact that the pilot operated a multiengine airplane without holding a multiengine class rating, and for operating an unairworthy airplane on a ferry flight

[29-0363]

I ask the ebay seller whether there was any damage history, and this was the reply.

 

"Has had belly and wing repair.. both done correctly and fully documented. welcome to have it inspected . I will fix any thing inspection finds wrong jerry"

[DS1980]

 

 

But what do you expect from someone who killed his own son and had his A&P revoked to make a fast buck.

Who is this guy?

[Bob]

Who is this guy?

http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20001205X00519&ntsbno=MIA99FA140&akey=1

[KSMooniac]

The insurance companies do not release the bid info. Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 4

[DS1980]

Wow. I've never read or even heard about this level of complacency. But I guess you live if you have others doing your dirty work. Just seems it wouldn't be your own flesh and blood.

Thanks for the heads-up Bob.