RoundTwo Posted February 18, 2023 Report Posted February 18, 2023 I’m looking at a potential purchase of a J that will need paint. So, while we would need to paint on the numbers, it’s crossed my mind to improve on what Mooney did. Granted, N201FU would be fun in an adolescent kind of way, but unfortunately, maturity rushes in for a quick buzz kill on that one. I like N201RF because it rolls off the tongue easily but it’s already taken. What are some of your “Wish I had a cool tail number like that” favorites? Quote
Hank Posted February 18, 2023 Report Posted February 18, 2023 "One Romeo Foxtrot" doesn't roll.easily off of my Southern tongue. Just get one you can say often and rapidly, and be understood. It's nice to.have part of it be meaningful, but teven with the recent 3-year registrations meant to purge old numbers, there are still not many available. Happy hunting! Quote
RoundTwo Posted February 18, 2023 Author Report Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Hank said: "One Romeo Foxtrot" doesn't roll.easily off of my Southern tongue. Just get one you can say often and rapidly, and be understood. It's nice to.have part of it be meaningful, but teven with the recent 3-year registrations meant to purge old numbers, there are still not many available. Happy hunting! How about “One Alpha Uniform” or “One War Eagle”? I wonder if controllers would let that slide in the SEC. 1 1 Quote
ArtVandelay Posted February 18, 2023 Report Posted February 18, 2023 If you want shorter N number, avoid multiple syllables: 2MG is shorter than 7RJ 2 Quote
RoundTwo Posted February 18, 2023 Author Report Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, ArtVandelay said: If you want shorter N number, avoid multiple syllables: 2MG is shorter than 7RJ Not necessarily going for shorter, but easy to say, be understood and most importantly, easy to pick up when you’re being called. My wife calls it selective hearing. It’s hard to believe anything could be much worse than the 152 I trained in back in 1985, N20SQ. “Zero Sierra Quebec” was a cruel prank. Quote
Seth Posted February 18, 2023 Report Posted February 18, 2023 201RF is the airplane that just crashed at GAI into power lines a few months ago as a heads up. That’s why it sounds familiar. I had an hour in that airplane and know people that had hundreds if not thousands of hours. There will likely be litigation over that and though you wouldn’t be liable, I’d stay away from that tail number for at least a few years due to the likely hassle. I always liked Nike’s corporate jet: N1KE I saw one with 889BB once -Seth 1 Quote
Immelman Posted February 18, 2023 Report Posted February 18, 2023 Seen at Oshkosh 1999, on a C172 from our neighbors to the north: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10025137 1 4 Quote
RoundTwo Posted February 18, 2023 Author Report Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Immelman said: Seen at Oshkosh 1999, on a C172 from our neighbors to the north: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10025137 That’s good for a spit take. Quote
Sue Bon Posted February 18, 2023 Report Posted February 18, 2023 N201R2 (Round Two) N201SB (Sue Bon ) N2014U (one for you) N201WG (White, Ga) One Whisky Golf rolls off the tongue... N201 Wife's initials... in case you don't want mine What are the FAA rules about letters and numbers? What is your profession? Professor Pi (@aviatoreb) got 314 in his reg... I need more info to brainstorm this thing.... 2 Quote
Guest Posted February 18, 2023 Report Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Immelman said: Seen at Oshkosh 1999, on a C172 from our neighbors to the north: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10025137 By having all letters, we do get some interesting combinations, and then there are some that are not available for obvious reasons. Quote
A64Pilot Posted February 18, 2023 Report Posted February 18, 2023 When I recovered my Maule I went with 107JB, JB for my initials and I like 7, but 7 was taken, but 107 wasn’t Many like the number 1, but 1JB was taken by a biz jet, so it’s going to become a chore sitting at the computer until you get a number you like that’s available, then of course your going to have to reserve that number. Then your going to have to hire a DAR as your Airworthiness Certificate will have to be re-issued. If I were re-painting I’d definitely go with small N numbers if eligible and get the local sign shop to cut me full size vinyl ones if I went overseas (temporary) Quote
RoundTwo Posted February 18, 2023 Author Report Posted February 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, A64Pilot said: When I recovered my Maule I went with 107JB, JB for my initials and I like 7, but 7 was taken, but 107 wasn’t Many like the number 1, but 1JB was taken by a biz jet, so it’s going to become a chore sitting at the computer until you get a number you like that’s available, then of course your going to have to reserve that number. Then your going to have to hire a DER as your Airworthiness Certificate will have to be re-issued. If I were re-painting I’d definitely go with small N numbers if eligible and get the local sign shop to cut me full size vinyl ones if I went overseas (temporary) Nice to meet you Joe Biden. NOU812 is available for any children of the 80’s. 2 Quote
RoundTwo Posted February 18, 2023 Author Report Posted February 18, 2023 34 minutes ago, Sue Bon said: N201R2 (Round Two) N201SB (Sue Bon ) N2014U (one for you) N201WG (White, Ga) One Whisky Golf rolls off the tongue... N201 Wife's initials... in case you don't want mine What are the FAA rules about letters and numbers? What is your profession? Professor Pi (@aviatoreb) got 314 in his reg... I need more info to brainstorm this thing.... 1WG sounds like a great pastime. 1 Quote
GeeBee Posted February 18, 2023 Report Posted February 18, 2023 I can't win on tail numbers. When I was an instructor a student showed up for an instrument rating in a heavily equipped 152. The tail number was N757ZU. Saying "7 Zulu Uniform" drove me nuts. I swore I would never have an N number like that! Then I bought my PA18-150 Super Cub. The N number? N5ZU 2 Quote
RoundTwo Posted February 19, 2023 Author Report Posted February 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, GeeBee said: I can't win on tail numbers. When I was an instructor a student showed up for an instrument rating in a heavily equipped 152. The tail number was N757ZU. Saying "7 Zulu Uniform" drove me nuts. I swore I would never have an N number like that! Then I bought my PA18-150 Super Cub. The N number? N5ZU Not far from Two Zero Sierra Quebec. No way to get out Zero Sierra quickly. Quote
GeeBee Posted February 19, 2023 Report Posted February 19, 2023 I think of it as a built in skill and sobriety check. Quote
Will.iam Posted February 19, 2023 Report Posted February 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, RoundTwo said: Not far from Two Zero Sierra Quebec. No way to get out Zero Sierra quickly. Come on trade that FU for TU! No seriously the best shortest easiest to say in my opinion is MM. I wanted 252MM but it was taken. And as 201MM the short would be 1MM and i have heard other other aircraft that have had MM and it’s rhythm is easy to hear and the controllers like to repeat it as soon as the operator shortens it up. It would be my pick even if i had to change the numbers to get the two MM’s. Unfortunately when my wife saw JH those where the initials of the first names of our boy and girl and any hope of changing from that was thus gone. 1 Quote
Guest Posted February 19, 2023 Report Posted February 19, 2023 4 hours ago, RoundTwo said: I’m looking at a potential purchase of a J that will need paint. So, while we would need to paint on the numbers, it’s crossed my mind to improve on what Mooney did. Granted, N201FU would be fun in an adolescent kind of way, but unfortunately, maturity rushes in for a quick buzz kill on that one. I like N201RF because it rolls off the tongue easily but it’s already taken. What are some of your “Wish I had a cool tail number like that” favorites? I’d never paint on registration marks. When airplanes switch countries, registration changes become a real pain and expense. Quote
A64Pilot Posted February 19, 2023 Report Posted February 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, M20Doc said: I’d never paint on registration marks. When airplanes switch countries, registration changes become a real pain and expense. From memory you can’t use Vinyl, although we delivered aircraft that way for a couple of years. ‘I believe the US regulation is you must either paint or use a decal? Without any explanation of what constitutes a decal. I just looked it up, nothing about a decal, but this says it must have the a similar permanence as paint Subpart C—Nationality and Registration Marks§ 45.21General.(a) Except as provided in § 45.22, no person may operate a U.S.-registered aircraft unless that aircraft displays nationality and registration marks in accordance with the requirements of this section and §§ 45.23 through 45.33.(b) Unless otherwise authorized by the FAA, no person may place on any aircraft a design, mark, or symbol that modifies or confuses the nationality and registration marks.(c) Aircraft nationality and registration marks must—(1) Except as provided in paragraph (d) of this section, be painted on the aircraft or affixed by any other means insuring a similar degree of permanence;(2) Have no ornamentation;(3) Contrast in color with the background; and(4) Be legible.(d) The aircraft nationality and registration marks may be affixed to an aircraft with readily removable material if—(1) It is intended for immediate delivery to a foreign purchaser;(2) It is bearing a temporary registration number; or(3) It is marked temporarily to meet the requirements of § 45.22(c)(1) or § 45.29(h) of this part, or both. Quote
takair Posted February 19, 2023 Report Posted February 19, 2023 I’m sure many are aware, but this site helps with what’s available. https://aircraft.faa.gov/e.gov/NN/reserve.aspx I just reserved one for my project Pitts. $10 There is another site where you can buy pre-reserved N numbers, some can be had for thousands. Quote
glbtrottr Posted February 19, 2023 Report Posted February 19, 2023 And the people that pre reserve numbers suck because they use a bot to buy all the short numbers for profit in volume. I’d never give them a dime Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Bartman Posted February 19, 2023 Report Posted February 19, 2023 I have grown fond of saying One Tango Foxtrot. Occasionally I do shorten to One Tango Fox. Quote
ZuluZulu Posted February 19, 2023 Report Posted February 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Sue Bon said: N201R2 (Round Two) Can't have a number after a letter, this one doesn't work. Has to be either all numbers or end in a letter. 1 Quote
Guest Posted February 19, 2023 Report Posted February 19, 2023 5 hours ago, A64Pilot said: From memory you can’t use Vinyl, although we delivered aircraft that way for a couple of years. ‘I believe the US regulation is you must either paint or use a decal? Without any explanation of what constitutes a decal. I just looked it up, nothing about a decal, but this says it must have the a similar permanence as paint Subpart C—Nationality and Registration Marks§ 45.21General.(a) Except as provided in § 45.22, no person may operate a U.S.-registered aircraft unless that aircraft displays nationality and registration marks in accordance with the requirements of this section and §§ 45.23 through 45.33.(b) Unless otherwise authorized by the FAA, no person may place on any aircraft a design, mark, or symbol that modifies or confuses the nationality and registration marks.(c) Aircraft nationality and registration marks must—(1) Except as provided in paragraph (d) of this section, be painted on the aircraft or affixed by any other means insuring a similar degree of permanence;(2) Have no ornamentation;(3) Contrast in color with the background; and(4) Be legible.(d) The aircraft nationality and registration marks may be affixed to an aircraft with readily removable material if—(1) It is intended for immediate delivery to a foreign purchaser;(2) It is bearing a temporary registration number; or(3) It is marked temporarily to meet the requirements of § 45.22(c)(1) or § 45.29(h) of this part, or both. You’d better let Cirrus and Cessna know, they use non painted registration marks. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted February 19, 2023 Report Posted February 19, 2023 Vinyl is permanent, it’s used on boats all the time and lasts for decades, boat regs are similar except they use the word “durable” instead of “permanent”.Just because you can remove it without damaging the paint doesn’t mean it’s not permanent.Now using masking tape would be considered not permanent. Quote
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