pkofman Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 Just curious if anyone has a realistic budget ( number of hours) to install a "landing height system" by Micro kit Engine Bridge. . Does anyone have any experience on this and I apologize if this question was asked before... I may install on a Mooney Bravo 1998 ( m20m) Any experience on this please. Peter Quote
toto Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, pkofman said: Just curious if anyone has a realistic budget ( number of hours) to install a "landing height system" by Micro kit Engine Bridge. . Does anyone have any experience on this and I apologize if this question was asked before... I may install on a Mooney Bravo 1998 ( m20m) Any experience on this please. Peter Here’s the big thread .. https://mooneyspace.com/topic/36596-landing-height-system-for-mooney/ @donkaye installed the LHS in his LB and is probably a good source for questions about the installation. Iirc his was about ten hours total. Quote
carusoam Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 PK, It is a high value, low cost opportunity… Sensor gets mounted in a hole in an inspection panel…. Wires run from the wing to your audio panel… Makes sense to do the work during your annual inspection when all the inspection panels are open… Visit the thread Toto posted above…. The LHS guy answers questions in the thread. Best regards, -a- Quote
pkofman Posted July 27, 2022 Author Report Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, carusoam said: PK, It is a high value, low cost opportunity… Sensor gets mounted in a hole in an inspection panel…. Wires run from the wing to your audio panel… Makes sense to do the work during your annual inspection when all the inspection panels are open… Visit the thread Toto posted above…. The LHS guy answers questions in the thread. Best regards, -a- hey thanks for the feedback. I spoke to them and they said about 4-6 hours. I wonder if that is consistent with others real life experience on Mooneys. ( in particular long bodies such as a bravo )look like maybe @donkayeinstalled on a bravo from what im reading here but I may be wrong.. maybe he knows. Peter Quote
toto Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 I was a little off on the install time reported by DK. He says seven hours: https://mooneyspace.com/topic/36596-landing-height-system-for-mooney/?do=findComment&comment=719232 For what it’s worth, that was about the same as my experience with a PA-28. Interfacing with the audio panel was the slowest part - running the wires and cutting the inspection panel went really fast. Quote
donkaye Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 46 minutes ago, pkofman said: hey thanks for the feedback. I spoke to them and they said about 4-6 hours. I wonder if that is consistent with others real life experience on Mooneys. ( in particular long bodies such as a bravo )look like maybe @donkayeinstalled on a bravo from what im reading here but I may be wrong.. maybe he knows. Peter It should take about 7 hours including the switch and circuit breaker. Quote
kortopates Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 I was a little off on the install time reported by DK. He says seven hours: https://mooneyspace.com/topic/36596-landing-height-system-for-mooney/?do=findComment&comment=719232 For what it’s worth, that was about the same as my experience with a PA-28. Interfacing with the audio panel was the slowest part - running the wires and cutting the inspection panel went really fast. personally 4 hrs is overly optimistic; especially with a switch and/or CB.The audio panel is a big unknown.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
LANCECASPER Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 3 hours ago, pkofman said: Just curious if anyone has a realistic budget ( number of hours) to install a "landing height system" by Micro kit Engine Bridge. . Does anyone have any experience on this and I apologize if this question was asked before... I may install on a Mooney Bravo 1998 ( m20m) Any experience on this please. Peter I had one previously in a Bravo. The avionics shop ran the wires down to the inspection panel when the airplane was apart for an avionics upgrade and charged me a couple extra hours since they were doing a lot anyway. Then later when my unit came in I finished it and my IA signed off on it. The Mooney Factory Service Center in Kerrville installed one in May on my G1000 Mooney Acclaim. They had never seen an LHS before I showed them what it was. They did it in 4 hours and did a great job with it. Nidal walked them through the wiring over the phone and I believe saved them some time. They also did a WX-500 Stormscope for me and charged me 20 hours. I considered both installations to be excellent work at fair hours billed. 2 Quote
carusoam Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 Nice pirep for the Mooney Factory Service Center, Lance! Thanks for sharing it. Best regards, -a- Quote
hypertech Posted July 29, 2022 Report Posted July 29, 2022 Running the wire was the easy part. Getting the circuit breaker in was a pain but none of that was that expensive. The expensive part for me was that I did not have an available input so the a&p couldn't complete it. It ended up at the radio shop for a couple hours for them to splice it in. Quote
JohnB Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 I had one installed on my Bravo, and it works fabulously once I got it installed. Best is finding the right kind of shop(s) to do the job, as l the connection to audio panel requires avionics knowledge, and avionics shops tend to charge more for running wires through wings and behind panel. If I had to install again, I would hire either an avionics shop to do it, or a mechanic with lots of knowledge in avionics/ electrical wiring, or perhaps even a mechanic to place the device and run the wires, and an avionics shop to connect them. 1 Quote
ilovecornfields Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnB said: I had one installed on my Bravo, and it works fabulously once I got it installed. Best is finding the right kind of shop(s) to do the job, as l the connection to audio panel requires avionics knowledge, and avionics shops tend to charge more for running wires through wings and behind panel. If I had to install again, I would hire either an avionics shop to do it, or a mechanic with lots of knowledge in avionics/ electrical wiring, or perhaps even a mechanic to place the device and run the wires, and an avionics shop to connect them. Which shop did you use? Quote
JohnB Posted August 1, 2022 Report Posted August 1, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 11:38 AM, ilovecornfields said: Which shop did you use? I would use the shop that @donkaye used on his Bravo. He told me but I don’t recall. The shop I used no longer works on Mooneys. Quote
201Mooniac Posted August 1, 2022 Report Posted August 1, 2022 43 minutes ago, JohnB said: I would use the shop that @donkaye used on his Bravo. He told me but I don’t recall. The shop I used no longer works on Mooneys. @John B I believe @donkaye had his installed by Peter at J&R Electronics at KHWD Quote
ilovecornfields Posted August 1, 2022 Report Posted August 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, JohnB said: I would use the shop that @donkaye used on his Bravo. He told me but I don’t recall. The shop I used no longer works on Mooneys. I spoke to Peter last year and he said he was interested then told me he was busy and stopped returning calls. Maybe he just doesn’t like me. Executive Autopilots said they would do it but I don’t think they’ve done one before. Just wondering if there was anyone that had some experience doing them on Mooneys but I guess it isn’t that complicated. Quote
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