TC FAA STC approval issue

[A64Pilot]

  On 2/25/2022 at 11:42 PM, M20Doc said:

Indeed they did crash in a fine American made product with a system few knew about.

Clarence

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That’s what blows my mind, that Professional ATP pilots don’t know how the flight control system works in the aircraft they are flying.

How can it get that bad? Maybe I understand a little about them not being able to diagram the Environmental  system, but flight controls?

Edited February 25, 2022 by A64Pilot

[carusoam]

  On 2/25/2022 at 11:51 PM, A64Pilot said:

That’s what blows my mind, that Professional ATP pilots don’t know how the flight control system works in the aircraft they are flying.

How can it get that bad? Maybe I understand a little about them not being able to diagram the Environmental  system, but flight controls?

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Oddly… Netflix seems to have the answer for that….

-a-

 

[GeeBee]

  On 2/25/2022 at 1:29 AM, A64Pilot said:

Boeing does their own approvals, with a slight bit of FAA oversight. There is no way the FAA could possibly cover Boeing, the FAA is largely administrators now, not so much Engineers. Boeing and Gulfstream and other big manufacturers are ODAR, they self certify.

FAA continues to delegate more and more, that’s how they “telecommute” every Fri now and of course are still shut down for Covid

The overriding issue with the FAA and big projects is that they are a Government agency and therefore subject to Political pressure, look to the approval of the Eclipse jet for an example.

https://www.oig.dot.gov/sites/default/files/WEB_FILE3_IG_Statement_on_Eclipse_Certification_CC_2008_120.pdf

There are others, we built and sold 24 experimental aircraft which isn’t legal of course and manufactured them right alongside of a Certified production line which also isn’t legal but the head of the US State dept called the MIDO in Atl and told them that those aircraft would be built

 

Canada is just doing the same as EASA did, that is building their own institution and yes the taxpayer will pay.

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Not any more! Boeing just last week lost their designation to sign A/W certificates for the B787. With that, all Boeings have to be flown by the FAA now for conformance. In addition, the FAA just this year, rejected over 50% of Boeings DERs. Congress in December 2020 passed the "Aircraft Certification, Safety and Accountability Act" which now limits designation and provides requirements for the FAA to take back designation in certain cases. The FAA is now required to report directly to Congress on transport certification programs. 

In addition, many of you need to check your facts:

One: For those of you denigrating the Ethiopian pilots........they were the only ones who got it right. They were the only ones who shut off the stab trim switches. In fact it was the super low time kid in the right seat that did it. As the American Airlines Pilots Safety Chairman said, "The kid got it right"

Two: Everyone (including Boeing) agrees that a defective MCAS leaves the pilot 10 seconds or less to react before the airplane is unrecoverable. 

Three: MCAS was never described in any pilot's  manual including the vaunted "Volume II" You can't know how it works if no one tells you about it.

Four: Boeing made an active effort to conceal the existence of MCAS to the FAA and EASA. The Chief Technical pilot described it as "Jedi-Mind tricks" in one memo which is why he is under criminal indictment.

Five: I know how the B737 flight control system works, I was a LCA on the NG series. It is difficult to distinguish a defective MCAS activation from a normal speed trim activation. 

Six: A system as deadly as MCAS, was on a single sensor

 

Please guys, know the facts before ripping the pilots, someday you may need the same grace.

[hais]

Learned today that Transport Canada finally approved the G3X STC, so we are dusting off the components to start the upgrade.