Hangar vs Tiedown,,,,,,,,,,,justification

[rbridges]

At $600+/month in South Florida, are you able to walk right into a hangar, or do you have a waiting list?  Your question may be answered for you if you can't get in one anyway.

[bnicolette]

Quote: rbridges

At $600+/month in South Florida, are you able to walk right into a hangar, or do you have a waiting list?  Your question may be answered for you if you can't get in one anyway.

[flyboy0681]

A year and a half ago I inquired at a local airport and they did have one available for immediate occupancy but it was a large T-hangar, suitable for a twin but overkill for a single.

Not sure if that answers your question.

[PilotDerek]

I wish there was anything available other than a tie down at my airport. The county said they'll give you a 15 year lease if you build a hanger, but you have to pay to run the water and electric out to it. If there were more owners here I would see if they wanted to go in on building just a shade for our spots.  

[gregwatts]

The airport is F45 in Palm Bch Gardens which is very near PBI. This is the closest airport to me. Availability is not an issue right now, but the pricing is county controlled. In the past, I have always packed up myself and 2 dogs, when hurricanes came, and flew out of town. My family dynamics have changed so that is no longer practical. After what happened at Sun N Fun this last time, I have really given it some thought. I guess it is like an insurance policy that you pay for forever and hope you never have to use. Thanks for all the input.....and quite honestly you all have excellent points.

[flyboy0681]

Quote: gregwatts

The airport is F45 in Palm Bch Gardens which is very near PBI.

[bnicolette]

I used to walk around F45 everyday while I was on trips in PBI waiting around.  We would base our Falcon at PBI during the winters and to kill part of the day I would walk around F45, Indiantown, and Lantana.  There are a lot of great folks at F45 and lots of activity in the bigger hangars by where the "car ports" are.  Many great guys there!!  I remember seeing a lot of the ports open last time I was there.

 

The guy that rebuilt this airplane is just phenomenal to speak with!  I can't remember what kind of airplane it is though.

[gregwatts]

Quote: Bnicolette

I used to walk around F45 everyday while I was on trips in PBI waiting around.

[gregwatts]

Quote: Bnicolette

I used to walk around F45 everyday while I was on trips in PBI waiting around. We would base our Falcon at PBI during the winters and to kill part of the day I would walk around F45, Indiantown, and Lantana. There are a lot of great folks at F45 and lots of activity in the bigger hangars by where the "car ports" are. Many great guys there!! I remember seeing a lot of the ports open last time I was there.

 

The guy that rebuilt this airplane is just phenomenal to speak with! I can't remember what kind of airplane it is though.

[flyboy0681]

Nice to see you on the board Phil. The wife and I are still loving our Halo's.

[aviatoreb]

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[aviatoreb]

Quote: pmccand

I bet your fee is the low-record?  I am at a good sized strip but rural area field and pay $200 for a 45' wide t-hangar.  On the other end of the scale I have heard from a renter that he pays $1200/month in Toronto.

[flyboy0681]

Quote: aviatoreb

Then...I'm moving to Iowa.

[Cruiser]

My airport is in the process of refurbishing some only hangars that have been unused for many, many years. New concrete floor, roof and door repairs. The interior is all open, no walls or partion but they will probably be offered for around $120/mo.

[aviatoreb]

Quote: flyboy0681

Stay right where you are, Potsdam is God's Country. Close to the Canadian and Vermont borders as well as the Adirondacks.

[RJBrown]

Quote: Bnicolette

I used to walk around F45 everyday while I was on trips in PBI waiting around.  We would base our Falcon at PBI during the winters and to kill part of the day I would walk around F45, Indiantown, and Lantana.  There are a lot of great folks at F45 and lots of activity in the bigger hangars by where the "car ports" are.  Many great guys there!!  I remember seeing a lot of the ports open last time I was there.

 

The guy that rebuilt this airplane is just phenomenal to speak with!  I can't remember what kind of airplane it is though.

[scottfromiowa]

Plumbing?  I thought that was what the gravel area (big enough to store a car) was for in the right corner after a flight...

[scottfromiowa]

The storch just needs an MG34 (to take out those pesky cubs) mounted in the rear.  A friend has a Brigadier (Czech) I think, aircraft that is similar in look and performance to the Storch.  An awesome STOL aircraft.  Used to rescue Benito from a mountain jail...so he could later be strung up and beaten by the masses.  That's a nice plane.

[GeorgePerry]

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[johnggreen]

Pmccand

I'm from central MS too.  Have my own hangar, but out of curiousity called the airport and they charge $75 for almost new T-hangars.  We also have a big WWII hangar that is empty simply because we don't have enough planes.  Don't know what they charge for that but less than $75.

I think this thread started with the search for the justifications of hangaring.  Am I dreaming that one of the big issues with older Mooneys is corrosion at the fuselage/wingroot from water seeping down from the side windows from being outside?

Also.  At my ranch, I have a terrible problem with mice and rats getting into equipment during cold weather.  It is amazing how easily they find entrance.  Just had to take my dump truck to the shop to see how they were getting into the cab where they were then relieving themselves profusely.  They had chewed through a rubber grommet around a wire entrance.  It seems that they are looking for any shelter in cold weather and won't be denied.

Interestingly, in twenty years of owning my insulated hangar, though I have a hell of a problem with them getting into the hangar and building nests, I haven't found one instance of a mouse or rat in any airplane.  i guess this is because once they get in the hangar, they are warm and satisfied.  I did read a cautionary about eating in your airplane and not vacuuming it out.  You'r just inviting those pesky guests.

ONE MORE POINT AND I'M THROUGH FOR THE A.M.  I remember reading an accident report years ago of an airplane crashing on takeoff from water collecting in the tail.  Airplane tied down outside needless to say.  On takeoff, the airplane stalled with undesireable consequences.

Jgreen 

[AndyFromCB]

Speaking of mice, one day I accidently built a better mouse trap. I left a 2 foot section of 3/4 inch nylon hose hanging over a 5 gallon bucket, one end touching the ground, the other right over the edge of the bucket. The bucket had some trash at the bottom. Came back to the hangar about 2 weeks later and guess what? 5 dead little criters in the bucket. Apparently, if you're a mouse and you see a piece of hose you simply cannot resist...Now it's a permanent setup with some dehydrating kitty litter on the bottom of the bucket and a slice of bread.

[M016576]

125 a month for my hangar... I guess it all depends on where you are, but 600 would be more than enough to keep me outside!  Save the cash, buy a new plane in 10 years with the savings (but I bet you won't have to!)!

[johnggreen]

Astel,

Explain that mouse trap one more time please.  I can't quite picture it.

Jgreen

[231BB]

For once California is cheaper! I pay $365 30 mins from San Francisco, CA. Although the weather is very mild and generally dry in this area, I wouldn't want to leave the airplane out. Things rot faster outdoors, I don't care how good a cover is.

I also do a fair amount of work/pampering myself on the aircraft, as well as owner assisted annuals. This saves me a BUNDLE, has allowed me to know my aircraft better, and encourages me to perform PMT (milspeak for "preventive maintence technology"). Plus it's a great "Man-Cave".

If you can afford it, I would say absolutely yes.

M20K/KCCR

[flyboy0681]

Quote: 231BB

 Although the weather is very mild and generally dry in this area, I wouldn't want to leave the airplane out.