Annual done all good but for one item, need help

[bonal]

Zero issues accept our Narco transposed died while getting VFR certificate. Unit was sent out to avionics for possible repair but might not be doable. As I am not ready to do ADSB upgrade and am likely going to go the Uavionix wing mounted when its certified am looking for a Narco At 50 150 or preferably a 165 as a slide in replacement. Any one out there with a working unit interested in sell let me know. I see some on EBay but would rather do business with someone on MS. I contacted Alan but he has none at this time.

Thanks in advance.

[vorlon1]

Uavionix wing mount is certified now. Tail mount expected later this year. 

[bonal]

30 minutes ago, vorlon1 said:

Uavionix wing mount is certified now. Tail mount expected later this year. 

Good news but don't you still need a transponder or does the Uavionix work as a replacement stand alone unit

[tangogawd]

I wont be home for at least another month. I have two sitting in a box to burn. No idea if they work. If your still in need in a month you can have them!

[jamesm]

I have a Sandia STX 165 transponder  altitude encoder is built in  all you need is power and ground , static line plumbed into it and someone would have cert on the install.  That I would sell  to you. It was functional when I removed it. 

James '67C

 

 

[Yetti]

6 hours ago, bonal said:

Good news but don't you still need a transponder or does the Uavionix work as a replacement stand alone unit

Need working transponder with Uavioix.

[MIm20c]

UAvionix might have some trouble with some the technology it allegedly borrowed from Garmin...  

[Skates97]

1 hour ago, MIm20c said:

UAvionix might have some trouble with some the technology it allegedly borrowed from Garmin...  

That's a fairly vague statement, care to elaborate? They already have certification for the skyBeacon (wingtip version) and are expecting certification for the tailBeacon.

[MIm20c]

Really just passing on some info I read about on BT. The technology that allows the receiver to sense the squawk code (to allow remote installation) was stolen from Garmin who already had a patient on the technology. 

Garmin is a powerful and calculating company, I don’t feel they would make an allegation like this unless it had merit. 

Patient

[Andy95W]

2 hours ago, MIm20c said:

Really just passing on some info I read about on BT. The technology that allows the receiver to sense the squawk code (to allow remote installation) was stolen from Garmin who already had a patient on the technology. 

The story that I heard from the folks at FreeFlight is that the unique piece that Garmin has is the ability for their units to actively "ping" the transponder in order to receive the squawk code.  Simply listening for the transponder transmission without the active "ping" is commonly accepted technology.

What this means is that without a Garmin ADS-B unit, if you are outside of radar coverage, you have to input the assigned squawk code manually into the ADS-B unit.  As soon as a radar facility sweeps across your transponder eliciting a reply, then the normal transponder output is received and broadcast from the ADS-B.

[Yetti]

That's a pretty broad patent.  It is pretty well known that if you were to run the proper coax next to the cable companies line feed you can pick up a pretty good signal.

The NSA can read a CRT monitor from a building across the street.   The FCC has ruled time and time again, if something is emitted, it is free for everyone to listen to.

[steingar]

I wouldn't want one of those Navworx thingies.  Too damn much drag, and way too much uncertainty.  I paid the money to put a box in the panel where it belongs.  To be honest, its about the same if not cheaper that when everyone had to outfit with the Mode C transponders.  2020 will be here sooner than you realize.

[bonal]

With the possible Garmin law suit against Uavionix I'm thinking might be best to suck it up and just do a ADSB in the panel. Besides the new tray what else has to be done to the airplane keeping in mind there is no gps waas or any such things on our VFR panel 

[Marauder]

With the possible Garmin law suit against Uavionix I'm thinking might be best to suck it up and just do a ADSB in the panel. Besides the new tray what else has to be done to the airplane keeping in mind there is no gps waas or any such things on our VFR panel 

If you have a digital transponder (not sure about the analog ones), like a GTX-327, you could do a GDL-82 and satisfy the mandate.


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[bonal]

Transponder has died so would be starting from scratch 

[Marauder]

Transponder has died so would be starting from scratch 

Need a deal on a GTX-327?


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[Schinderhannes]

A used Garmin GTX327 offers a very good value and besides the installation shouldn't be much more than the Narco repair. The GTX327 will work nicely with most ADSB UATs. Which model encoder do you have?

[bonal]

Don't know which encoder but the old unit was a Narco AT 165 TSO that has a digital display. Was a real nice unit 

[Schinderhannes]

Garmin makes an adapter for the GTX327 to replace the Narco165 without changing tray & wiring. 

[Hank]

Bonal, I really like my GTX327. Easy to punch in codes, has a VFR button, shows altitude, has a timer, etc.

[Frank B.]

On 8/19/2018 at 9:20 PM, Skates97 said:

That's a fairly vague statement, care to elaborate? They already have certification for the skyBeacon (wingtip version) and are expecting certification for the tailBeacon.

https://insight.rpxcorp.com/litigation_documents/12956844

[EricJ]

1 hour ago, Frank B. said:

https://insight.rpxcorp.com/litigation_documents/12956844

That's pretty interesting.

Synopsis for the TLDR crowd:

According to Garmin:

Garmin and uAvionix were working together on drone technology.

Garmin sorts out that some uAvionix products appear to be infringing on their patent (aka 301).

Garmin asks uAvionix what's up, uAvionix says they have a workaround to the patent.

Garmin asks for details, but uAvionix says their IP Attorney told them not to tell them anything.   (In my experience that would be expected,  you don't hand your IP over to a competitor, especially if they're giving you a bad time about IP infringement.)

Garmin buys a uAvionix SkyBeacon, takes it apart, tests it, etc., and says uAvionix is not working around the patent, they're infringing it.

There's some nice electronic porn in the document, as Garmin included pics of the disassembled SkyBeacon and EchoUAT.

This is only one side of the story.   I'd be very interested in seeing uAvionix's response.   

[bonal]

22 hours ago, Schinderhannes said:

Garmin makes an adapter for the GTX327 to replace the Narco165 without changing tray & wiring. 

Going to go the 327 rout would that adaptor be available at aircraft spruce ?

[Yetti]

You might consider Trig.  For $600 more you get Mode S and ADSB out with a GPS position source

[Schinderhannes]

 

32 minutes ago, Yetti said:

You might consider Trig.  For $600 more you get Mode S and ADSB out with a GPS position source

A used GTX327 is $400-$500. Where do you find a TT31 for $1000-$1100?