RobertE Posted September 3, 2017 Report Posted September 3, 2017 As some of you may know there are lots of fires on the west coast, limiting visibility to 1 mile in lots of places along the coast. In any event, while on this approach I guessed that 5 clicks would turn on the approach lights despite seeing nothing suggesting that on the plate. Fortunately, the lights turned on and I could see the runway, but did I miss something on this chart? Should we always assume a few clicks on the ctaf will turn on the lights? Quote
carusoam Posted September 3, 2017 Report Posted September 3, 2017 Under the airport lighting notes there is a couple of symbols, Malsr and the other one A5(?)... does that mean pilot controlled lighting? What does it mean? Do you know where to look the symbology up in your iPad nav resource? Wait... that's a photo of a real piece of paper you got there. Check the front of the book it came from for the abbreviations and symbology notes... In the lower left corner are additional lighting notes regarding the light systems available on each runway. Again the symbol with an A5 is there... and another symbol at the end of the line... at my home drome the PCL is on an old frequency that is no longer used as the CTAF. Clicking on the CTAF does nothing... PP thoughts only, haven't flown in the dark in a long time... Best regards, -a- Quote
kortopates Posted September 3, 2017 Report Posted September 3, 2017 There is nothing on the chart to tell you how to turn on the lights, just what kind of approach lighting. There is another whole document that includes that information and I am sure you remember what it is look there under "service".Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Andy95W Posted September 3, 2017 Report Posted September 3, 2017 The black oval with the 'L' in it next to the CTAF frequency is identical to the symbol on the low Enroute chart for pilot controlled lighting. The legend doesn't say that's what it is, but then again it doesn't say it's anything else. I'd bet that's what that means- especially because it doesn't appear on charts with operating control towers- only next to a frequency that's marked 'CTAF'. Quote
laytonl Posted September 3, 2017 Report Posted September 3, 2017 The "L" in a dark circle means the lights are pilot controlled. The symbol is also shown next to the controlling frequency, in this case, the CTAF. The A/FD (or hat ever it's now called) shows what is pilot controlled. Lee 1 Quote
Piloto Posted September 3, 2017 Report Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) Any time landing at night at a uncontrolled field it is wise to overfly the runway at low altitude with landing lights on before landing. This will assure you of no obstructions at night. Cows and other animals prefer the runway vs grass to avoid the mosquitoes and bugs. José Edited September 3, 2017 by Piloto 1 Quote
bradp Posted September 3, 2017 Report Posted September 3, 2017 If the PCL is different then the CTAF it will be buried in the A/FD. In foreflight itsnunder the comments section. CECs information is below ... papery the same as electronic for the most part. 1 Quote
takair Posted September 3, 2017 Report Posted September 3, 2017 Here is what the government Terminal Procedures Supplement says for those using those plates. Quote
peevee Posted September 3, 2017 Report Posted September 3, 2017 Cec is a great little airport and a great area. Quote
RobertE Posted September 3, 2017 Author Report Posted September 3, 2017 Thanks, everyone. As always I'm reminded of all that I don't know. Quote
kortopates Posted September 4, 2017 Report Posted September 4, 2017 Thanks, everyone. As always I'm reminded of all that I don't know. Me too! Didn't realize there were actually three places it's covered.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
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