bucko Posted August 11, 2015 Report Posted August 11, 2015 Got a Whelen Parmetheus Plus LED Landing light at Oshkosh last month, and am planning to install it in my 1965 M20-E. Is this an easy owner install? I have the SWTX cowl and the existing bulb light is behind a plexi cover held on with phillips head screws. Taking off the lower right side access panel behind the front cowling lets me get to the light assembly to replace the old bulbs as they burn out. Hoping that I can do it myself and just make an entry in the logbook. Or, my mechanic can do it if necessary, and he can make the logbook entry. Thanks for any input. Bucko Strehlow Quote
Raptor05121 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Posted August 11, 2015 From what I understand, if its a FAA-PMA authorized replacement, as an owner-operator, you are allowed to exchange the landing light. More experienced members- feel free to correct me if I am wrong. The only question there becomes, what took you so long? A month with a new toy? I would've had it on that night Quote
bucko Posted August 11, 2015 Author Report Posted August 11, 2015 Actually, won in at the Mooney Caravan live drawing at the Tuesday night BBQ dinner. It was one of 2 that Whelen donated to the Caravan festivities. Whelen shipped it after I sent in the certificate and it just arrived today. Only thing that kept me from going out to put it on tonight was that I got home too late to do it. Just was wondering how easy or hard it'd be on the 1965 E model. Thanks, Bucko (Also very excited with my new toy.) Quote
Hank Posted August 11, 2015 Report Posted August 11, 2015 It wasn't difficult to do on my '70 C. Pop off the right cheek to get to the wires. But I don't have the LASAR cowl, so I had to remove the wonderful trim ring that's sunk ~4" into the front of nose. It's an original Parmetheus, been in since April last year, I've only turned it off once since (during annual). You'll like it. Quote
Raptor05121 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Posted August 11, 2015 Bucko, post pictures. I think a LED landing light for 24/7 ops will be my first mod come purchase Quote
clh Posted August 11, 2015 Report Posted August 11, 2015 for my stock cowling, it was a drop-in.... Quote
Browncbr1 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Posted August 11, 2015 not including the plexiglass, it is 3-4 screws that hold the light in place with a retainer ring on the front.. two machine screws holding the power leads ... Be sure to reinstall with correct polarity as directed by Whelen. Super easy.. remove cowl cheek and retainer ring... takes 5 minutes.. Quote
LevelWing Posted August 11, 2015 Report Posted August 11, 2015 My mechanic did mine. He ended up having to fit it a little for some reason. It wasn't quite a drop-in replacement but it wasn't hard either. It looks great. Quote
1964-M20E Posted August 11, 2015 Report Posted August 11, 2015 Replacing lights lenses and reflectors is in the realm of the owner as well as the entire electrical circuit for the landing light. Quote
Jim Peace Posted August 12, 2015 Report Posted August 12, 2015 Got a Whelen Parmetheus Plus LED Landing light at Oshkosh last month, and am planning to install it in my 1965 M20-E. Is this an easy owner install? My mechanic did mine. Said it was easy on a 1964C. It will not be as bright as you think it will be. But at least you can have it on the entire flight. I am waiting for the plus plus plus plus version....... Quote
Hank Posted August 12, 2015 Report Posted August 12, 2015 It will not be as bright as you think it will be. But at least you can have it on the entire flight. It's certainly no little sun, but it's much much brighter than the burned out GE bulb it replaced. Thankfully on the flight it died (worked well at preflight, then did not illuminate the ridgeline on base . . .) I was able to dimly make out the numbers on the runway, which I had repainted the year before. The runway edge lights were mostly lit, and once I cleared the trees on short final and could descend the rest of the way, I could briefly see the REILs for proper alignment with the 75' wide runway off center between the 200' wide lights. Now my LED is on all the time, and provides adequate lighting of the runway from about 0.68 or 0.74 nm out (I forget the exact number). Just another thing I like about moving back South. Quote
bucko Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Posted August 12, 2015 I know that I promised pictures, but it was so easy as a drop in that it wasn't worth it. Took off the plastic lens cover on the front cowling (4 phillips head screws). Took off the retaining ring (again 4 screws). Took out the old light assembly. Took off the wires to the back of it. Ground easily identifiable, as was the 14 volt power side. Screwed the appropriate wires to the back of the new Whelen LED light. Turned on the master and the landing light switch, to make sure it all worked. Then reinstalled everything in the reverse order. Took about 10 minutes, and a lot of that time was cleaning and polishing the front plastic lens cover at the front of the cowling prior to putting it back on. Then went and flew three (3) takeoffs and landings, as it was well and truly dark. Very bright, although the spread was a little less wide than the old light. Definitely sent the light further down the runway, and anything that reflected was really visible. Like it very much. Especially the 5,000 hour + LED life. And it will stay on all the time. Bucko 1 Quote
MooneyPTG Posted August 19, 2015 Report Posted August 19, 2015 Can I get the model or number of that light. There seems to be a bunch of them at spruce Quote
DXB Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Will do this eventually when mine burns out. I've heard there's landing and taxi versions? Which one do folks get? Quote
Jim Peace Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Will do this eventually when mine burns out. I've heard there's landing and taxi versions? Which one do folks get? On my 1964c the landing version was the only one available. Don't quote me right now I don't have my stuff in front of me but I think I had to use the PAR46. they only have or had at the time the PAR46 in a landing light ......12v... I then bought the lens from LASAR to make it aerodynamic. Quote
carusoam Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 If you only have room for one... Let it be a landing light. Best regards, -a- Quote
KyleKJ90 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 I too have been interested in upgrading to the Parmetheus LED bulbs for my F model. My particular Mooney has the oil cooler relocation mod and in it's place a second landing light. Talk about an electricity hog! Two of the GE4537 bulbs add up to a whopping 200 Watts or dang near 15 amps! I'm wondering which bulb (landing/taxi) or combination would be best to buy. Also, have they come down in price lately or are they still around $300? Quote
bucko Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Posted August 20, 2015 My aircraft (1965 E model) used the 5.65" round x 2.25" Face to Screw terminal: 14 volt system. Whelen Model P46P1L (Model 01-0790750-10). Bucko Quote
ArtVandelay Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Taxi light is has wider spread and lights up just the 25' in front of you, landing light is a tight spread and throws light much farther. Quote
KyleKJ90 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 I'm thinking a taxi AND a landing bulb would be a pretty sweet combination. Unless two landing lights would be better. Thoughts? Quote
Browncbr1 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Posted August 22, 2015 I'm thinking a taxi AND a landing bulb would be a pretty sweet combination. Unless two landing lights would be better. Thoughts? I don't fly at night, but when I did, the single Whelen landing light was plenty for all phases. Two is overkill Quote
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