OP ED-"Little Timmy Wants to Know Why Nobody Likes Airplanes Anymore?

[flyboy0681]

I like oil. We're all set up to burn it now. Emmissions are cleaner than they ever have been. My new chevy pick up gets 23mpg on the highway.

Let's worry about what we're gonna consume for the next fuel when we see the end in sight. So far technology keeps allowing us to find an ever increasing supply.

 

Remember all of the bitching and moaning and bellyaching Detroit expounded when CAFE standards were put into place and modified and they said "we can't squeeze another two miles a gallon out of our vehicles"? That was when they got 10 miles per gallon. Now they produce whole fleets getting between 35-40.

[AndyFromCB]

I long for those days, YES. Not for the reasons you describe. I WANT LESS GOVERNMENT. PERIOD.

I want the Federal Government to stay within a budget. I want LESS CONTROL, Policies, programs, departments, employees, buildings, infrastructure.

I want the Federal Government to balance a budget. I want them to live within the Capitol that is provided by the people. I want the overreach to stop.

All the controls you talk about have nothing to do with what I want from the Federal Government.

With regard to riding my bike to the ice-skating rink...without a helmet even, to playing with my friends outside. Walking to movies with friends. Not worrying about pedophiles and illegal drugs...Was it out there? Sure.

Were the times more innocent? YES, for me. For others? Not so much depending on your ethinicity...but based on complaints now maybe better for them too.

 

I'm not terribly concerned about drugs other than them being illegal. Been there, done that, I like my wine/beer/scotch more. To this day, I still do not recall anyone walking up to me and forcing me to take any ;-) War on drugs is a great example of federal government overreach that now is costing many cash businesses a lot of time and hassles. Ever heard of a crime called "Structuring". Read this, Scott:

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/14/us/irs-asset-forfeiture-case-is-dropped-.html?_r=1

 

or this one, even better

 

http://www.ij.org/long-island-forfeiture

 

As to pedos, I'm pretty positive that the number of them per capita has remained fairly constant as has the number of other deviants. It's just now in the open and probably unlike in the 1960's where a coach/priest would just get moved around from one school to another to another, now, he might get to spend some quality time with bubba.

[flyboy0681]

I'm not terribly concerned about drugs other than them being illegal. Been there, done that, I like my wine/beer/scotch more. To this day, I still do not recall anyone walking up to me and forcing me to take any ;-) War on drugs is a great example of federal government overreach that now is costing many cash businesses a lot of time and hassles. Ever heard of a crime called "Structuring". Read this, Scott:

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/14/us/irs-asset-forfeiture-case-is-dropped-.html?_r=1

 

or this one, even better

 

http://www.ij.org/long-island-forfeiture

 

As to pedos, I'm pretty positive that the number of them per capita has remained fairly constant as has the number of other deviants. It's just now in the open and probably unlike in the 1960's where a coach/priest would just get moved around from one school to another to another, now, he might get to spend some quality time with bubba.

 

I suspect the conservative response to this will be the same as Cheney gave on Meet the Press yesterday, that he could care less how many innocent people were swept up and tortured (and eventually released) as long as they got their hands on a few real ones.

[AndyFromCB]

Why should we pay $5 a gallon of gas from ND if we can get it from the desert for $2? This part does not compute with me again. How is that supposed to work? Some sort of government regulation prohibiting import/export of crude? Maybe we could stop the war on drugs and change DEA to P(etro)EA. How would that be any different than farm bill propping up farmers? I see, expensive oil good, cheap food bad? Saudi oil sniffing dogs at every airport? How many years in prison per gallon of saudi oil? 

[flyboy0681]

Why should we pay $5 a gallon of gas from ND if we can get it from the desert for $2? This part does not compute with me again. How is that supposed to work? Some sort of government regulation prohibiting import/export of crude? Maybe we could stop the war on drugs and change DEA to P(etro)EA. How would that be any different than farm bill propping up farmers? I see, expensive oil good, cheap food bad?

 

Exactly what I said to his proposal.

[DaV8or]

I like oil. We're all set up to burn it now. Emmissions are cleaner than they ever have been. My new chevy pick up gets 23mpg on the highway.

Let's worry about what we're gonna consume for the next fuel when we see the end in sight. So far technology keeps allowing us to find an ever increasing supply.

 

See what I mean? Forward planning of a 5 year old. Use it all up as fast as we can and then cry for something else when it runs out. It's cool though, it's little Timmy's generation that will faced with that problem, not ours.

[aaronk25]

See what I mean? Forward planning of a 5 year old. Use it all up as fast as we can and then cry for something else when it runs out. It's cool though, it's little Timmy's generation that will faced with that problem, not ours.

What are you talking about? We got enough oil for a long time....for sure 50 years but I've been reading now maybe longer.

So when your driving and your gas tank reads 7/8 full are you planning on where your gonna get gas at for the next tank?

Cars are clean now. We most likely have a couple generations worth of oil.

The great thing about supply in demand is once supplies become limited, price goes up and drives incentives for other types of energy.

I don't know anyone tying to "use it all up" or "cry about it".

How we do something when we need to?

So I'm guessing you have a left leaning view. So let me ask you this. How do you justify the huge amount of natural resources that will need to be consumed just to re-equip us with vehicles that will be able to run on a substance only found in the movie superman?

[flyboy0681]

Ha Ha! Current president campaigned on $5 gas being about right. I want no protection for big oil. $2 is fine with me. I like "old days" now because there was less government debt. Free market? Fine with me. Develop bio fuels? Fine with me

 

Presidents campaign with a lot of rhetoric. Some come to pass, most don't.

 

Peace with honor comes to mind.

[bumper]

US manufacturing and the Chinese invasion. 

 

The early 50's in southern CA, middle class housing in Duarte, a shade over 1,000 square feet, 3 tiny bedrooms, 1 bath, a kitchen with less room than a walk in closet, a car port (no garage), wall heater, no A/C, one B&W TV, one car in the driveway. If mom wanted to shop, she walked or waited for dad to come home with the car. Most mothers were stay-at-home by choice (though one might say they had no other choice). Now I have no idea what it was like elsewhere for the lower middle class in America, but that's what it was there. 

 

That standard of living is well below what's considered the poverty level now, and well below what one can get being on welfare. 

 

The middle class expectation is much higher now. Upward pressure on wages, along with higher taxes, more regulations, and many other increasing costs of doing business, either caused the demise of many businesses or caused them to move manufacturing off shore in a quest for survival and more profits. You'll notice I left out corporate greed, though I'm sure there was some of that too. I personally think it's ethically questionable for an American company to sell to the American consumer, yet outsource their manufacturing to some other country. I understand why they do this, and why the US consumer is willing, even giddy, to pay much lower prices for hard goods and consumables - especially so when the quality is good to excellent as has been the case with many foreign automobiles.

 

Unfortunately, this path to corporate profit and consumerism is a parasite that will kill its host long term, as our country becomes less and less self sufficient. Importing the cheaper goods to placate the masses, importing cheap laborers to do the work we feel is beneath us. And all the while going further and further into debt to pay the tab for hand out programs to win the vote and for overweight American to eat junk food, use drugs, watch TV all day, and run up medical costs with obesity related health costs. 

 

Yes, I'm oversimplifying complex issues . . . but they remain issues nonetheless. How will we ever be able to defend ourselves from the evil in this world if we are no longer self sufficient? And I'm afraid not all that evil is without.

[flyboy0681]

US manufacturing and the Chinese invasion. 

 

The early 50's in southern CA, middle class housing in Duarte, a shade over 1,000 square feet, 3 tiny bedrooms, 1 bath, a kitchen with less room than a walk in closet, a car port (no garage), wall heater, no A/C, one B&W TV, one car in the driveway. If mom wanted to shop, she walked or waited for dad to come home with the car. Most mothers were stay-at-home by choice (though one might say they had no other choice). Now I have no idea what it was like elsewhere for the lower middle class in America, but that's what it was there. 

 

 

Just keep in mind that at the time, still less than 10 years after the wars ended, the US manufactured everything for the world and was supplying Europe and Japan with the materials needed for their rebuilding efforts. We couldn't do wrong.

 

Then reality set in some twenty years later when the countries that we helped rebuild came back to bite us in the rear, which wasn't necessarily a bad thing. If it wasn't for the Japanese, we'd probably still be driving around in cars that last 50k miles before they'd have to be scrapped.

[carusoam]

See if I got this right...

The Japanese gave us a few things...

1) The drive required to get out of bed and do things for ourselves. Started around 1939 or so...

2) The drive to treat women and other people as equals, because they are. Started before Rosey the riveter... But she has made a lasting impression.

3) they doubled the household income because Mom found a decent job...

4) they opened our eyes to what cheap is and how there is room for a quality product as well as a cheap product.

5) US statistical quality processes came from a professor in charge of supporting the reconstruction of Japan. Some guy named Deming.

6) they now are teaching us all how to completely mess up a country's economy. They call it Abe-nomics... Something like a 10% sales tax?

7) they have shown us that there are no perfect countries or political systems.

8) they have shown us what it is like to have no home source of oil.

To be able to be prepared for what comes next, you may want to educate all of your children...

Not just the first born.

Not just the men.

Everyone....

The future is going to be different...

Is that what you meant?

[flyboy0681]

See if I got this right...

The Japanese gave us a few things...

 

 

Pretty much.

 

One thing that they have that they shouldn't give us is deflation.

[flyboy0681]

Well, I knew this one was coming and it arrived. While watching Fox during lunch there was an exchange between the pretty host and a reporter in Sydney covering the aftermath of the hostage situation. The conversation turned to gun control in Australia and how if the customers were armed the whole episode probably wouldn't have happened.

 

Did the guy ever think that maybe Australia is one of the safest countries in the world because of those controls? He also neglected to mention that citizens do have the ability to arm themselves but the laws are very restrictive.

[AndyFromCB]

That standard of living is well below what's considered the poverty level now, and well below what one can get being on welfare. 

 

 

I'm sure they all are rolling in hundred dollars bills, and chasing their caviar down with Dom wearing their $300 Air Jordans talking on their Obama iPhones 6, doing what they do best, thuggin with their pants around their ankles proudly displaying their Ralph Lauren underwear living in 4400sqft Section 8 mansions with heated towel racks.

 

BTW, highly recommend heated towel racks and heated bathroom floors. And bidets. SensoWash rocks. It's my new definition of middle class and I propose new Section 8 and FHA regulations to require them in at least one of the 4 minimum bathrooms needed in a home. Because what's better than a warm floor underfoot and that fresh feeling? Knowing that Scott and Bumper paid for it ;-)

[AndyFromCB]

Serve and protect. Beating up on a 76 year old guy. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVNwPD7CPR8#t=57

 

I think there used to be an adage that a conservative is just a liberal who got mugged but soon enough it might be that a liberal is a conservative who got their shit kicked by the police. This is what happens when you specifically hire below a certain IQ. Did most of you know that scoring too high on an IQ tests more or less disqualifies you from being a cop these days.

[smccray]

Well, I knew this one was coming and it arrived. While watching Fox during lunch there was an exchange between the pretty host and a reporter in Sydney covering the aftermath of the hostage situation. The conversation turned to gun control in Australia and how if the customers were armed the whole episode probably wouldn't have happened.

 

Did the guy ever think that maybe Australia is one of the safest countries in the world because of those controls? He also neglected to mention that citizens do have the ability to arm themselves but the laws are very restrictive.

 

It's not possible to have an evidence-based discussion about the root cause of violent crime in this country.  It's too easy to point at guns because guns are scary to those who aren't familiar with guns.  Give a group of people who have a tendency towards crime a lot of guns and you get more crimes committed with guns.  Give people guns who tend to follow the law and they're less likely to be a victim of a crime.

 

There's plenty of examples on both sides of the argument.  The real problem is if you really step back and look at all the examples, a lack of guns necessarily leads to fewer gun crimes (because there's no guns...).  However, it doesn't really appear to be at the root cause of the rate of overall violent crime which is a more accurate measure.  One can find a statistic to support the desired position, but gun control is another wedge issue.

[flyboy0681]

your nickname is now soundbite.

It's all you've got.

 

 

Yup, all I've got.

[flyboy0681]

Thought I would throw this out there. A lefty friend of mine sent this to me about the current state of Obama. Comments?

 

 

 

No additional wars, in fact withdrawal from previous wars.

 

Unemployment significantly down.

 

Economy recovering and picking up steam.

 

Oil prices lowest in five years

 

The ACA is here to stay and appears to be working. Signups exceeded projections.

 

A start on immigration reform by executive order.

 

Bailout of auto companies saved the industry and now they are thriving and paying back the debt.

 

The stock market is at historic highs.

 

 

Only the messenger

[carusoam]

he left out stable 2% annual inflation...

[flyboy0681]

hey Soundbite-

NOPE

 

Which items on the list do you take exception to?

 

Also, since I write software for a living, I'd prefer to be called Soundbyte.

[flyboy0681]

Here is the story people. Massive Federal budget passed with minimal debate. More debt. More of the same in Washington. If you want a rosey picture you need to go to a different theatre. I would walk out of the movie, but I live it every day. You can try and revise and lie for the incompetence coming out of D.C.

I wont.

 

 

Soundbyte says, stick to the list.

[AndyFromCB]

hey Soundbite-

NOPE

 

Actually, about all you've got since in the entire history of this country, we had a balanced budget 3 or 4 times. We're not the ones grasping at the straws and living in alternate reality. One day, you might, although highly unlikely, pick up a book on economics, and understand the theory of original sin and what makes US and Japan exceptional: we don't have any debt what so ever. We never borrowed a dime, yet. BTW, exceptional is the term borrowed from you. But let me repeat myself. We have no debt. Not one penny.

[AndyFromCB]

Here is the story people. Massive Federal budget passed with minimal debate. More debt. More of the same in Washington. If you want a rosey picture you need to go to a different theatre. I would walk out of the movie, but I live it every day. You can try and revise and lie for the incompetence coming out of D.C.

I wont.

 

no debt, not one penny. 

[AndyFromCB]

Here is the story people. Massive Federal budget passed with minimal debate. More debt. More of the same in Washington. If you want a rosey picture you need to go to a different theatre. I would walk out of the movie, but I live it every day. You can try and revise and lie for the incompetence coming out of D.C.

I wont.

 

Show me where US of A has borrow a single penny in currency it is not able to print and repay on the spot should it desire to do so. There is an old adage, you own a bank one hundred, it's your problem, you own a bank one hundred million, it's the bank's problem. You really think China owns us. The problem with dumb people is they assume everyone is as dumb they are.

[scottfromiowa]

Every one is asked and answered why I disagree in this thread Soundbite You and your lefty friend have fun basking in your perceived bliss. I live in reals ville.