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How long will she run before a top end will be needed? No ABDS. Neglected for nine plus years means all its systems will need to be thoroughly vetted. Can you say $10,000 annual for two, three, four years? This is off the top of my head. Cliff. Do you have any panel pictures? What kind of engine management for the last 10 yrs? Cliff, are you the seller? A definate candidate for the Encore upgrade is a plus, if the purchase price is right. df

Wish it could have been me.

Better than disenginues ink.

Anyone headed to Reno this year? I have never been and would like to go. Anyone near me that is flying? We could team up. David

My sources don't know much, yet. Maybe I will get something soon. DF

Junction is a non issue for any Model Mooney. Hondo would most likely have a lower price on fuel. Neither has much in the way of FBO facilities though Hondo is better than Junction. David

Fuel measurements are accomplished the same way, by inflating or deflating a main tire, to where the wings are level, and then fuel is added by weight and recorded. df

Asked my source about this. Each plane is weighed individually. There are three scales embedded into the floor. The nose scale is lower than the mains scale. The plane is rolled onto the scales and a large straight level is placed on two previously installed engineering mounts, that are at the calculated center of the airplane. The plane is then made to simulate straight and level flight. They accomplish this by either inflating or deflating the front tire. All three weights on each tire are then collected and a baseline W & B is established before painting, and then again after painting and all equipment is installed. Planes equipped the same are usually within 2-4 lbs of each other, and said it was because of the paint. DF

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I talked to a Mooney guy the other day. With direct knowledge of the question, he said that the new Mooney's come back from the paint shop weighing 50 lbs more than before they flew to the paint shop. The spread is between 2-4 lbs between planes curiously. I'm sure a lot of you guys already know this fact. I wonder what the weight difference was with some of you guys that did a strip and repaint? Thanks David

Welcome to the forum. GO ENCORE! DF

I hope all is going well.

Very nice J. Some things to consider: The STC owner for the TN has passed away, and no one has subsequently bought the STC. Parts need to be sourced on your own if the need ever develops and your AP would need to be competent, obviously. The UL is not the best, but not bad either. The 252 series has a UL 'around' those numbers. Lots of pilots made them work and loved that plane. I don't believe you can go as high in a J compared to a K. I think the 252 was 28,000 or something like that.

Can the GE model get the gross weight increase likes J models and K models can get?

Goodness. Very valid points. I assumed the f and g had the same weight allowances.I obviously assumed wrong.

Only $750 to purchase the STC. I guess that's not too bad. 80 hours of Labor is listed. I assume that would include some fabrication for the simple fact of all the different engine models that are out there, airboxes baffles etcetera etcetera. Any engine type you wished as a bonus. Find a run-out G model, Put the 200 horsepower in it, Would it cost less money than an F model? Probably not. Would it be worth it? I say yes If you own the airplane long enough.

I suggest you go to an Oncologist right away if Two is firing and not one.

Well. For that distance, anything you decide on will be overkill. The wonderful C model will do you just fine but if you must have a K model, go for the 252. Better yet, get the Encore. Even better, buy Lances' Ovation that he has listed on this board and help a fellow Mooneyspacer out.

Flying by yourself? Significant Other? How many lbs do you project. How far is your trip? I don't know how far the foot hills are from SFO. DF

Mr RJ What you have basically asked is a subjective question. Both options will fit your mission and your answer may lay with you passengers I am sorry to say. Who is flying with you? Significant Other? If so, if you test ride both of your options with the significant other, the perceived space may make the decision for you. Our Mooney's fit like a sports car with lots of room for the long legged types sitting low (Think Corvette) Like a Corvette, you sit tighter that the competition. This is why the Mooney brand is efficient in the air and burns much less gas that it's competition. It is a sleek and efficient design. As with everything in aviation, it is in the compromise. The competition sits much more upright, has more horse power, flies comparatively the same speed at the cost of more fuel and more maintenance. So I say do not go over to the Dark Side! Do not let the significant other look at the other brand. Do not let the pressure get to you. Stay strong. David

How much lop, how much Rop?

In theory, this beautiful plane should have sold by now.

Good times and good luck. Congratulations. Df

Ok it's time to get serious. I do not need two airplanes. Sure you do!!! Good luck.

The perspicacious manner in which you conduct yourself is quit refreshing. Thank you.