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Would you be willing to do closer to 45k?

I think he is parting out the airplane. I'm sure he would take your $45k but give you a pile of parts in exchange.

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Hi,

I am very interested in your Mooney. I have owned a total of 3 different planes, a Piper turbo Arrow, a Seneca III Turbo (twin) and a V-tail Bonanza. Each of these planes were owned by my company and my former business partner was a pilot. I do not currently have a PPL, however I am going to start building time with my son shortly. My other son (His twin brother) has his PPL and is currently about 1-2 months from completing his IFR. I flew the Piper Arrow and V-tail right wing with my partner frequently for business and pleasure travel. We had a full time professional pilot on staff for the Seneca twin and used it for more serious regional business travel including other key employees that used it.

When I bought out my business partner back in 07, he kept the Bonanza, Seneca III and Hanger as part of the deal. Since then, I have not had a plane. With 1 son going for his IFR, my other son going for his VFR, I figured its time for me to get my license and get a plane we can all use.

I am looking for a plane that my son and I can use to get our PPL, but something that is also capable of flying from KPAE (Everett, WA) to Mesquite Airport in Nevada (753 KMiles) with my son at the controls flying IFR. My folks just bought a retirement home in Mesquite (an hour outside of Las Vegas) and we will expect to do a fair amount of travel back and forth. Longer term, the plan is to get a 6 seat single that can cruise at 200kts. A Cessna P-210 T with range extenders and the 520 upgraded 310 HP Turbo Normalized engine seems to be the right aircraft for doing this 750 knot trip with 3-5 people regularly. The B36TC Bonanza doesnt seem like a true 6 seater for long flights. I would sacrifice the 5th person capability for the right 4 seat plane that could actually take 4 adults 750 KMIles while travelling at a preferable 200KTS, however 175+ is reasonable. Im sorry for going off topic, but I figured I could perhaps get a couple questions answered at the same time...

Can a Mooney with the Rocket conversion comfortably hold 4 adults (600LBS ) on this mission profile? Would an SR22 handle this flight better than the Mooney? Ideally Id like to make it non stop.

Back to the subject at hand... Were looking for an aircraft that my son and I can train in and that can also handle the Everett, WA to Mesquite, NV IFR flight with my IFR rated son at the controls, along with the ability to do some light weight business travel while were training and building experience. I have looked around quite a bit, and almost leased an 02 SR22, before deciding that if I was going to end up with a 6 seater in 2-3 years, an sr-22 might be harder to sell.

I stumbled across this plane when looking for basic low cost Mooneys to use for training. It seems like and extra 20k gets you a very capable machine that actually can compete with something like an SR22 in terms of performance capabilities.

From what I have seen, this aircraft is a very good deal. I did not notice any pics of the interior accomodations, nor any mention of them. Can I see a few interior pics of the seating?

Would you be willing to assist in getting the aircraft up this direction if we wired you the money and purchased the plane? The plane is located quite a ways from Seattle area and my son still has a bit further to go before his IFR is completed. Were getting into the time of year where its not practical to transport this far via a VFR flight. Ideally, it would be great if my son could fly down to you, and take the plane back with you, as a way to gain familiarity with the aircraft, however I am not sure how someone would feel about having to trek 1300 Miles or whatever it is to Seattle as part of the sale on a plane that seems like its priced very aggressively to begin with. Sorry for all of the questions, I am not trying to be a pain in the neck. I am a serious interested buyer, and I just dont have the level of experience that many potential buyers likely have.

Thanks in advance,

Ken

Ken

Take a look at the Piper Comanche 400. Mine will carry 1500 pounds, 780 fuel and 720 people. It will fly 5-6 hours at 190kts. Not all have the same useful load, it depends on whip prop and various engine accessories.

Many of my Cirrus customers who I fly in it comment that it is much faster than their SR22, the only ones who are faster are turbocharged, but they have neither range nor load.

It is not a trainer, many have had damage caused by weak piloting skills.

Clarence

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Ken

Take a look at the Piper Comanche 400. Mine will carry 1500 pounds, 780 fuel and 720 people. It will fly 5-6 hours at 190kts. Not all have the same useful load, it depends on whip prop and various engine accessories.

Many of my Cirrus customers who I fly in it comment that it is much faster than their SR22, the only ones who are faster are turbocharged, but they have neither range nor load.

It is not a trainer, many have had damage caused by weak piloting skills.

Clarence

I love the 400. It is a real monster with that 8 cylinder Lyc!

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